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[DC_Ref12]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

UNSPORTING BEHAVIOR
2.8.1 COMMENT: Unsporting tactics, in general, involve relationships between opponents, between the players and officials, between the spectators and officials, between the players and spectators, between the coaches and spectators, and between coaches and officials. In most situations, it does not apply to the relationship of a player to teammates, nor to the coach and members of the team. However, these standards are not without exception. For example, profanity on the part of a participant, coach or member of the team is considered to be an unsporting act, whether or not the profanity is directed at any individual or is merely a means of “letting off steam.” (10-1-8; 10-3-7; 10-4-1)

This rule doesn't really back up the assertion that the original scenario is NOT flagrant. The bolded section is intended to clarify that just because profanity is not directed towards anyone in particular, it does not mean it shouldn't be called. This has nothing to do with the flagrant nature of a technical foul.

I will ask you the same question I asked the other poster. What would you consider to be the definition of flagrant? How far would this particular player have to go to get you to call a flagrant?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12

This rule doesn't really back up the assertion that the original scenario is NOT flagrant. The bolded section is intended to clarify that just because profanity is not directed towards anyone in particular, it does not mean it shouldn't be called. This has nothing to do with the flagrant nature of a technical foul.

I will ask you the same question I asked the other poster. What would you consider to be the definition of flagrant? How far would this particular player have to go to get you to call a flagrant?

The rules do not say it has to be flagrant either. This is all my point is. This is a judgment call. All I will say if I ejected everyone that used profanity there are places there would be no game. But then again, I do not just get upset when I hear profanity. I address other little comments that players have no business saying to me. Then again I do not allow players to call me by my first name. So I tend to have a different set of values than most here in the first place.

Peace

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12

This rule doesn't really back up the assertion that the original scenario is NOT flagrant. The bolded section is intended to clarify that just because profanity is not directed towards anyone in particular, it does not mean it shouldn't be called. This has nothing to do with the flagrant nature of a technical foul.

I will ask you the same question I asked the other poster. What would you consider to be the definition of flagrant? How far would this particular player have to go to get you to call a flagrant?

Okay, let me say this. On our board, tossing a player for that would be very questionable and the coach would have gone to others to get it overturned. You can never reproduce the emotion or the intensity of how it was said. One official may have more tolerance for such words and handle it a whole different way. Myself personally, whether its the f-bomb or any curse word, you get an automatic "t", whether its directed to me or not. Now, IF it is directed to me and you get in my face or bump me during this exchange, then you get tossed. I hope that clears up the air.