The crew did nothing...

[Texas Aggie]

He was (1) personal and (2) profane.

Right. If its one OR the other you might just call the T, but with both, its a no brainer ejection.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

You keep on saying we are letting kids swear at us, were not we all agreed to T them up, that is their penalty Now if they do it again then yes they would be gone. So we are not letting them do that, we just have a different philosophy on the penalty. For someone who has come across to me (on here) as a nice but opinionated guy, you my friend have been out of line on this post. You are out right trying to belittle your fellow officials. You are wrong. You in Old School are one in the same to me now.

That part you got right. But the part about me and JR are one in the same is way off. I am merely on the defense when interjecting on this forum. People like JR are constantly on the attack. I have stated this many times before that he likes to throw officials under the bus. Me, I just refuse to sit back and take it. I have endured enough of that in my life. So I strike back but I am always on the defense.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

That part you got right. But the part about me and JR are one in the same is way off. I am merely on the defense when interjecting on this forum. People like JR are constantly on the attack. I have stated this many times before that he likes to throw officials under the bus. Me, I just refuse to sit back and take it. I have endured enough of that in my life. So I strike back but I am always on the defense.

You have directly insulted, without provocation, other officials on this board besides JR and me. Don't sit back and pretend to be on the high road and play victim.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If Rut wants to let high school players swear at him also, then good for him too. I have the same opinion whether it's you or him. You do NOT let high school players swear AT you EVER imo. Ther'e a big difference between swearing and swearing at an official.

If y'all want to put up with that though, hey, bend over and be my guest.

Again, jmo. If you doesn't bother you when players call you names, you sureasheck shouldn't get upset at what's said to you here either.

Here is the problem I have with your argument, you are caught up into swearing. There are other comments that I find worse than swearing. Swearing are just some specific words. I look for a little more than just some words.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is the problem I have with your argument, you are caught up into swearing. There are other comments that I find worse than swearing. Swearing are just some specific words. I look for a little more than just some words.

Peace

How about the personal nature or the volume?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

How about the personal nature or the volume?

What about it? Are you ejected all comments without profanity and a high volume?

I also tend to set a tone that I am not the one. I cannot speak for what the rest of you do.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What about it? Are you ejected all comments without profanity and a high volume?

I also tend to set a tone that I am not the one. I cannot speak for what the rest of you do.

Peace

Every time a player says "you're (adjective)" where the adjective is negative, I eject. EVERY time. Without question, without fail. Period. Last year I had someone in a dugout yell out, "You're brutal," and I tossed him without a second thought.

Maybe it's my baseball background, but I don't tolerate that in any sport I work. Yell at the stripes, don't yell at me.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Every time a player says "you're (adjective)" where the adjective is negative, I eject. EVERY time. Without question, without fail. Period. Last year I had someone in a dugout yell out, "You're brutal," and I tossed him without a second thought.

Maybe it's my baseball background, but I don't tolerate that in any sport I work. Yell at the stripes, don't yell at me.

That is fine with me. I am not going to eject for that alone.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Every time a player says "you're (adjective)" where the adjective is negative, I eject. EVERY time. Without question, without fail. Period. Last year I had someone in a dugout yell out, "You're brutal," and I tossed him without a second thought.

Maybe it's my baseball background, but I don't tolerate that in any sport I work. Yell at the stripes, don't yell at me.

They can ALWAYS find an excellent reason to talk themselves into NOT ejecting someone, Rich. And they wonder why some coaches and players are out of control. It's because they're afraid to control them.

Sad.

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What about it? Are you ejected all comments without profanity and a high volume?

I also tend to set a tone that I am not the one. I cannot speak for what the rest of you do.

Peace

JRut,

I don't think anyone's ejecting solely based on volume, but I think it's just one more thing to factor into the whole senario.

Also, what do you mean by, "I also tend to set a tone that I am not the one"? Just wondering, because I didn't quite understand it from your post.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by NewNCref

Also, what do you mean by, "I also tend to set a tone that I am not the one"? Just wondering, because I didn't quite understand it from your post.

I have learned how to carry myself in a way that this kind of behavior does not happen to me. Not to say it would never happen in the future, but I guess I do not see a reason to throw someone out because they lost control for a moment. I would rather give two Ts, than one if I am going to eject someone for their behavior.

Peace