Article by Fox Sports: Refs should be whistled for traveling

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Old School

This was good reading. I always like when we cut thru the chase and get to the point which is what these articles do. I am a bit perplex with these assigners. I think they are the problem. Nobody will ever make me believe that the officials that work DI or the only officials that can work DI. There is no shortage of officials that would like to make $1200 - $2400 per game.

You would think that with these guys working crazy schedules like this, that there is a shortage of good officials. There simply isn't! In another thread I drew a very valid comparison between career minded AAU officials (aka weekend warriors) and DI officials who chase these big games. There is no difference in the way these people view officiating. One group just makes way more money then the other and this is where the hypocrisy starts. If you're making a lot of money doing it, then it's okay. No doubt we turn our heads to the DI warrior working everyday of the week. But even at the AAU level it's a problem, we don't want to see an official working his 8th game of the day, working our game.

No doubt there needs to be limits set and I think it's up to the assigners to do it. The article states:
"The problem is that these guys are working multiple leagues, so no one is monitoring how often they work. And coordinators such as Clougherty and Hyland understand they would lose the elite officials to other conferences if they went to them and said they couldn't work elsewhere. "If I'm not going to use him today, someone else is," Clougherty added. "So I'd rather benefit than have him go to the SEC or another league."

Bullsh!t, I say. This is pure BS and I think where the problem lies. I do not think that officiating is rocket science work where only certain people in the country can do it. Until we get over this, there will always be issues. However, I will say this. I have no problem with these guys making the money that they are making, supporting their families and such, even though they are not able to see them in the winter. Not a bad job if you can get it. I just wish we would stop with the deception that only these guys can do it.

I got the answer though. It's actually quite simple and already stated. You can't work more than one DI conference, period. That's what needs to happen. Until there is a shortage of officials, then why have guys work multiple conferences? Supply and demand. The assigners could do this without having to get an act of congress to pull off. The assigners just need to have some balls and stand up to these elite officials and coaches. Unfortunately, because of the amount of money involved (the root of all evil) it will never change, imho.

Un-f@#$ing-believable.

I'm relatively new to the basketball board so I have to ask: Do you officiate?
Or, are you a fan, or grandfather of an AAU player? Or is this like a gameshow for you where you periodically need to buy a clue?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Un-f@#$ing-believable.

I'm relatively new to the basketball board so I have to ask: Do you officiate?

Just a troll, Garth. We've gone through the exercise to confirm that. He isn't an official. Maybe does a little rec stuff, but he's never done any organized ball. Doesn't even own rule books.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Just a troll, Garth. We've gone through the exercise to confirm that.

What exercise is that? The exercise where you asked me my name and I won't tell you so you think I never officated. That's okay, I like being a troll. Life is good as a troll. I can speak my mind without fear of losing face. I can challenge people position better on a subject because I don't have to be right all the time. We all know how cut-throat this business is.

Long live the trolls....

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 2,688

Originally Posted by GarthB

Un-f@#$ing-believable.

I'm relatively new to the basketball board

No you're not.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

No you're not.

Maybe he spends most of his time on the baseball board (he does, BTW).

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

No you're not.

Yes I am. I spent about six years posting just on the baseball board. I only began posting "regularly" on the basketball board about four months ago.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Yes I am. I spent about six years posting just on the baseball board. I only began posting "regularly" on the basketball board about four months ago.

He is telling the truth. Garth never posted on this side until recently. He is not new to the board overall, but he is new to this sports specific section. It is a welcome addition if you ask me.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I'm relatively new to the basketball board so I have to ask: Do you officiate?
Or, are you a fan, or grandfather of an AAU player? Or is this like a gameshow for you where you periodically need to buy a clue?

Welcome to the hoops side, Garth. Your discernment is commendable.
The prevailing consensus here is that OS has done his share of Rec league/intramural games. He/she prefers consistency to accuracy (as in, it's better to be consistently wrong than inconsistent.)

Oh, and he has a secret weapon. Well, it's not really a secret or a weapon. It's actually a stare. I like to call it the "Old School Really Mean Stare of Impending Warnings," but we may have to come up with a better acronym since "OSRMSOIW" doesn't really flow. Maybe the "Old School Stare Helping Impose Technicals."

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

"Old School Stare Helping Impose Technicals."

I hope the acronym wasn't lost on anyone!

[JugglingReferee]

That's my bad then.

I remember frist seeing GarthB posts. If that was 4 months ago, then I must be living with a different cosmological constant.

I beg your forgiveness.