Who is working the Duke / UNC game?

[JRutledge]

Teddy Valentine is one of them. I recognize the other Black official but I do not know his name. I do not know who the 3rd official is.

Peace

[zebraman]

Interesting couple of sequences at about the 14:00 or 15:00 minute mark in the 2nd half.

Trap along the frontcourt sideline in front of the lead. He gives a non-standard signal to indicate that the player with the ball was bobbling the ball (I think to show NC coach that there was no control for a travel). As soon as he does that, the T comes in with a travel Coach K was not happy.

Then on the other end, there was no lead. Then into the picture comes a very late lead. I think they had two C's and one T for a few seconds. Maybe the L stopped to talk to Coach K on his way down? Couldn't see the entire F/C so it was hard to tell what happened.

[tjones1]

Ohhhh boy...someone will have some explaining to do to their supervisor in the morning.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Ohhhh boy...someone will have some explaining to do to their supervisor in the morning.

They will probably have a conversation tonight. I am sure an evaluator is there.

Peace

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They will probably have a conversation tonight. I am sure an evaluator is there.

Peace

Good point.

[rgncjn]

I recognized Valentine, but the one (same that you mentioned) is making me think. Valentine had the OSU/Mich game last night.

I would put money on it that an evaluator is there.

[BktBallRef]

Gary Maxwell
Ted Valentine
Reggie Greenwood

This is the first ACC game I've ever seen Reggie work.

Interesting plays:

Reyshawn Terry went down in the lane. A Duke player came into the lane and tripped over him. TV called the foul on Terry. That's contrary to what we've always discussed on this forum.

Deon Thompson went for a rebound stuff, missed the ball, grabbed the rim, and turned loose. Greenwood called a T, from the L. I;ve never before seen that call made.

Carolina by 4.

BTW, Carolina leads for the first time!

[BktBallRef]

John Cloughtery may or may not be there.

These guys are veteran, Final Four officials. Evaluator? I doubt it. If you're capable of working the biggest rivalry in sports, you've already been evaluated several times.

For tomegun: Brian Kersey gave K the ! I love it!

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Deon Thompson went for a rebound stuff, missed the ball, grabbed the rim, and turned loose. Greenwood called a T, from the L. I;ve never before seen that call made.

AFTER he grabbed the rim, though, he slapped it with one of his hands, kind of like a guy would slap the backboard after a dunk. To me, it implied a little bit of showmanship...does that make a difference in the call?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Interesting plays:

Reyshawn Terry went down in the lane. A Duke player came into the lane and tripped over him. TV called the foul on Terry. That's contrary to what we've always discussed on this forum.

No it's not contrary to what we've stated on this forum. For NFHS this is NOT a foul per an old case book play which has now disappeared. However, the NCAA has an A.R. that says that this is a blocking foul. We've been pointing out that difference in the rules sets for a few years now.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Reyshawn Terry went down in the lane. A Duke player came into the lane and tripped over him. TV called the foul on Terry. That's contrary to what we've always discussed on this forum.

It's contrary to the high school interpretation, but I think we've talked about this difference before. Not sure if I can find an old thread, but here's the NCAA AR:

A.R. 91 B1 slips to the floor in the free-throw lane. A1 (whith his/her back to B1, who is prone) receives a pass, turns and, in his or her attempt to drive to the basket, trips and falls over B1. RULING: Foul on B1, who has taken an illegal defensive position.

Correct call.

[tnzebra]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Interesting couple of sequences at about the 14:00 or 15:00 minute mark in the 2nd half.

Trap along the frontcourt sideline in front of the lead. He gives a non-standard signal to indicate that the player with the ball was bobbling the ball (I think to show NC coach that there was no control for a travel). As soon as he does that, the T comes in with a travel Coach K was not happy.

Then on the other end, there was no lead. Then into the picture comes a very late lead. I think they had two C's and one T for a few seconds. Maybe the L stopped to talk to Coach K on his way down? Couldn't see the entire F/C so it was hard to tell what happened.

What in the world was C coming over and blowing this when L said he was "bobbling" the ball and cound not travel? Coach K had every right to be mad on this play.....mad at Greenwood.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tnzebra

What in the world was C coming over and blowing this when L said he was "bobbling" the ball and cound not travel? Coach K had every right to be mad on this play.....mad at Greenwood.

First of all this is why you do not give signals like the "bobble." Also for all you know, the official had a travel before the bobble or had a clear look at the travel before the L.

Peace