Couple issues from the Coach's perspective

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You know how there are magic words or phrases that instantly turn off certain groups of people? Well, saying "we got screwed" is one of those phrases for officials. Try a more pleasant euphenism.

Manhandled?
Pushed around?
Worked over?
Robbed?
Jobbed?

[steve33]

Well, I tried to be as nice as possible... sorry if I turned you off... :-p

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by steve33

Well, I tried to be as nice as possible... sorry if I turned you off... :-p

Don't worry. I think the point was not necessarily the use of that term as the implication that intentional harm was done to your team. I think it's the very very rare case rather than the norm that an official would willfuly and maliciously call a game a certain way just to harm your team. That's what the term "we got screwed" implies and why officials are so loathe to hear it.

[steve33]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Don't worry. I think the point was not necessarily the use of that term as the implication that intentional harm was done to your team. I think it's the very very rare case rather than the norm that an official would willfully and maliciously call a game a certain way just to harm your team. That's what the term "we got screwed" implies and why officials are so loathe to hear it.

In my first scenario, it was more the home team's book keeper rather than the officials. But I see what you are saying and I can sometimes vouch for your loathing of hearing some "we got screwed". Because I certainly do my fair share of yelling.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Manhandled?
Pushed around?
Worked over?
Robbed?
Jobbed?

Hey...what's that smell...??? Oh yeah, I know...

[sj]

If it just so happens that it's not worked out for the bookkeepers to sit next to each other then make sure that your bookkeeper checks with the official book at halftime to make sure both books have the same thing.

[Junker]

I agree that in both cases you had some definite officiating problems. About all you can to is report to the conference commissioner and hope they take care of it. As far as the scorer's problems, did the officials even discuss the discrepency between the 2 books? Obviously the official book is what they need to be using, but I would think that big of a difference would have been noticed by someone on the crew. It wouldn't have made a difference in your game, but at least the officials could have reported the scorer's problems to the assignor and then the assignor could contact the school. I had a lower level HS game a few weeks ago where we basically changed the official book to the visitor's book because we had a couple of HS girls taking care of the home book and they were doing a terrible job.

Keep up the good questions. Some officials (including me at times) see the terms "got screwed" and immediately get riled up. You brought up some valid points of things that should have been done right at any level of game, especially college.