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[Chess Ref]

No doubt. I realize that there are numerous things that go into being a good official. I realize that there are good officials who look like the before ad. I also realize there are pretty boys who are not so good officials.

Maybe I missed the boat on this one. Maybe our area is the one that sends the best officials to the girls side and make the boys play with the pretty boys. In our area none of the before ad officials are doing college, but the pretty boys seem to be.. I'm just thinking in our area the girls are really lucky then. The girls seem to be getting all the before ad officials, until the playoffs, and the assignor is sending the crappy pretty boys to the boys games.

Seriously, putting the whole weight thing aside. Boys get better refs than the girls. I see it in action. For whatever reason thats the way it is. And i don't like it nor do I think it's right.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

No doubt. I realize that there are numerous things that go into being a good official. I realize that there are good officials who look like the before ad. I also realize there are pretty boys who are not so good officials.

Maybe I missed the boat on this one. Maybe our area is the one that sends the best officials to the girls side and make the boys play with the pretty boys. In our area none of the before ad officials are doing college, but the pretty boys seem to be.. I'm just thinking in our area the girls are really lucky then. The girls seem to be getting all the before ad officials, until the playoffs, and the assignor is sending the crappy pretty boys to the boys games.

Seriously, putting the whole weight thing aside. Boys get better refs than the girls. I see it in action. For whatever reason thats the way it is. And i don't like it nor do I think it's right.

Here's a politically incorrect take on it:

It takes a better official to work HS boys varsity than it does girls.....in every state I've lived. The ball is faster, the players are more athletic, and you have to employ advantage/disadvantage with a far keener eye in boys games. When I work girls games, I get many more coaches who want every bit of contact called as a foul and typically coach behavior is unpredictable and more likely to result in me having to take care of business than when I work boys games.

If someone more politically correct wishes to put a better spin on it, go right ahead. But officials shouldn't feel forced to work girls ball just cause they want and like working boys ball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

When I work girls games, I get many more coaches who want every bit of contact called as a foul and typically coach behavior is unpredictable and more likely to result in me having to take care of business than when I work boys games.

This is the reason I stopped doing Girl's games. I would literally see a girl player just standing still and the ball handler would run into them and fall to the floor and they automatically want a foul. Then when you would say to them in a calm voice about the defender was in LGP and that would do nothing but set them off and before you know it the game goes to hell in a hand basket.

The very same thing would happen on the boy's side and the coaches would be yelling at their player for making such a stupid play. Then if you called a foul just because of some contact, Boy's coaches tend complain about letting them play.

All I can say is this past week I watched most of the game on ESPN HS game between Loyola Academy (IL) and North Central HS (IN) and you cannot tell me that an officials that is used working a lot of girls game can handle that game without some major adjustment.

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

If someone more politically correct wishes to put a better spin on it, go right ahead. But officials shouldn't feel forced to work girls ball just cause they want and like working boys ball.

I agree, this should be a personal choice.

Peace

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree, this should be a personal choice.

Peace

Agreed.

I ref boys games because I love the intensity and challenge of it.

I ref girls games because they need good officials too. I have several friends who have daughters and they appreciate it.

I ref boys games differently than girls games. It isn't that hard to do.

The adjustment is not any more difficult than the adjustment needed between a high-level talented boys game and a lower-level boys game with mediocre players.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Here's a politically incorrect take on it:

It takes a better official to work HS boys varsity than it does girls.....in every state I've lived. The ball is faster, the players are more athletic, and you have to employ advantage/disadvantage with a far keener eye in boys games. When I work girls games, I get many more coaches who want every bit of contact called as a foul and typically coach behavior is unpredictable and more likely to result in me having to take care of business than when I work boys games.

If someone more politically correct wishes to put a better spin on it, go right ahead. But officials shouldn't feel forced to work girls ball just cause they want and like working boys ball.

Well I live in the land of political correctness and well I never consider the truth to be politically incorrect. Between your post and Jrut's post a light bulb came on for me. People shouldn't be forced to work games they don't want to and it's all good. For myself I hope to someday be able to be like the zebraman and ref girls because they deserve good officials too. Not ref them because that is all I am qualified to do......