2 strange questions...

[psujaye]

BV game;
during warm-ups, a player was wearing an Ipod....what is the ruling on this?

also, during the 3 quarter of a blowout (40 point rule/running clock in effect), the coach of the team that is winning gets up from his seat, walks down the sideline along the bench toward the baseline and continues to walk out of the gym (while the ball is in play). He doesn't coach, yell, attract attention to himself, he just walks out. Being a blowout, my partner and I went on with business as usual. About 5 minutes later, the coach came back and sat down. Any thoughts? A number of reasons crossed my mind (maybe he was sick, emergency phone call)...he didn't cause a scene or anything bizarre. thoughts?

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by psujaye

BV game;
during warm-ups, a player was wearing an Ipod....what is the ruling on this?

also, during the 3 quarter of a blowout (40 point rule/running clock in effect), the coach of the team that is winning gets up from his seat, walks down the sideline along the bench toward the baseline and continues to walk out of the gym (while the ball is in play). He doesn't coach, yell, attract attention to himself, he just walks out. Being a blowout, my partner and I went on with business as usual. About 5 minutes later, the coach came back and sat down. Any thoughts? A number of reasons crossed my mind (maybe he was sick, emergency phone call)...he didn't cause a scene or anything bizarre. thoughts?

wow those are two strange ones! coach is a fool for letting his kid wear an i-pod in warmups, but i am not aware of any rule that would prohibit this. kid could wear a mr. t. gold chain in warmups if he wants as long as he has it off come game time...

as far as the second one i guess technically you could call him out of the box, but under the circumstances the no call seems correct..maybe he just couldn't hold it for another minute, we've all been there! again, have never seen this specifically addressed anywhere though...

man this is a strange game sometimes...

[Ignats75]

I would ask the kid to take the IPOD off during warmups. Just like we make the earrings come out during warmups. Just like we make the rubber bands come off the wrists in warm ups. Its just not appropriate.

I wouldn't do anything about the coach leaving either. I wouldn't stop a player from going to the locker room either. The consequences could be messy.

[deecee]

we cannot make anything come out during warmups -- we make suggestions and hope they comply -- they are NOT allowed to play with earrings -- there is nothing that prohibts them during warmups.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by deecee

we cannot make anything come out during warmups -- we make suggestions and hope they comply -- they are NOT allowed to play with earrings -- there is nothing that prohibts them during warmups.

exactly...

[HawkeyeCubP]

Deecee and kbilla - see the Case Play I cited above. (A lesser HawkeyeCubP once mistakenly thought the same thing.) You're mistaken.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by kbilla

exactly...

Exactly WRONG.....

[psujaye]

it sounds like it is a question of whether or not it is illegal during warm ups; obviously they can't wear earrings and the like during the game, but (and i dont have my rulebook infront of me) unless it is clearly illegal during warm ups, i guess no harm no foul.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by deecee

we cannot make anything come out during warmups -- we make suggestions and hope they comply -- they are NOT allowed to play with earrings -- there is nothing that prohibts them during warmups.

Sure we can. Rule 3.5.6: Jewelry shall not be worn.

It then goes on to discuss why medical tags are not jewelry. It also says in 3.5 that The referee shall not permit any team member to wear equipment or apparel which, in his/her judgement is dangerous or confusing to other players or is not appropriate.

It says nothing about during the game or warm-up. I promise you that in warm-ups I make them take jewelry off, rubber bands off, any hard hair clips out, fix any braces that have a problem, etc. If they have an Ipod with them - that's leaving too. In my judgement - those items present a dangerous situation to team mates and the Ipod is innappriate.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by kbilla

wow those are two strange ones! coach is a fool for letting his kid wear an i-pod in warmups, but i am not aware of any rule that would prohibit this. kid could wear a mr. t. gold chain in warmups if he wants as long as he has it off come game time...

Are you serious? See case book play 3.5SitB. Been in there for years. If he wants to wear a Mr. T chain, he ain't gonna be doing it on the court during the officials' jurisdiction, if the officials know the rules.

The Ipod is a no-no too. Anything that is a possible danger to others isn't allowed.

Geeze, what next? A kid trying to make a lay-up in warmup while carrying a boombox?

[deecee]

how is the ipod a danger to others -- hes shooting layups and midrange jumpers.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by deecee

how is the ipod a danger to others -- hes shooting layups and midrange jumpers.

If you ever do manage to find your elusive rule books, read 3-5-1 and 3.5SitA. As well as the one about jewelry in warmups, of course--3.5SitB.

[psujaye]

i'll look up those rules that you mentioned JR. thanks.
I was surprised his coach allowed that...they're like the 3rd ranked team in Phila, you'd think the coach wouldn't stand for that.
then again, he left during the game, so who knows..

thanks everyone!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by deecee

how is the ipod a danger to others -- hes shooting layups and midrange jumpers.

Let's suppose he gets clocked in the head with a ball because he could not hear his teammate yell "Look out!"and his parents decide to sue you because you saw it and did not have it removed. Strange, I know, but look at the warning labels on hair dryers. Think someone using one in the tub won't sue if they survive?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Let's suppose he gets clocked in the head with a ball because he could not hear his teammate yell "Look out!"and his parents decide to sue you because you saw it and did not have it removed. Strange, I know, but look at the warning labels on hair dryers. Think someone using one in the tub won't sue if they survive?

wheres nevada and his 3rd world play book...

i had a team who had a very large rooster as one of its players -- it was number 10 and quick as heck on the crossover...one problem it got 2 quick T's for excessive clucking...what would you do in this situation?