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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 11:59am
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tricks to enforce the seatbelt

T'd up a coach last night. Let her know very clearly that she had the seatbelt. Still, found her several times up and coaching and had to give her several warnings. Felt like it would be over the top to toss someone because they stood up, which means I need some advice on how to better enforce the rule without having to make that regretable decision to toss someone.

this is 2 man, so hard to be right on top of the coach all of the time.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:02pm
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Several Warnings???? One maybe.

General rule of thumb regarding warnings. If you don't enforce them after the first one, don't issue them at all. You lose credibility if you don't. Just like being a parent.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:03pm
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One warning, maybe. After that, dump her. Your state will back you up 100% and the coach will learn real quick not to do it again.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:05pm
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The coach is obviously pushing the envelope, not abiding to rules. You let her get away with it. Sometimes you have to enforce the rules, regardless of how you feel about it. The second T should have been issued and not "several warnings". If you let her get away with this, she is probably getting away with that - in other words - she owns you.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:07pm
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If they don't understand after I tell them to stay on the bench, I won't bother coming up with a clever way to get them to do it. Coaches know what they need to do anyhow. Thankfully, I've not needed to assess any T's for coaches being up, so maybe the direct route works best.

If they've been reminded and won't listen to you, don't regret the second T.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:14pm
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Hartsy,

Ask the officials in the St Ignatius-Zanesville game last weekend.

Zville coach unbuckled his seatbelt and then was surprised when he was asked to leave the confines of the gymnasium.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 12:55pm
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Wait until the first dead ball and tell the coach they need to sit down the rest of the game. Do not say "or else." Do not allow talk about calls, just pass on the information and move on. If they choose not to listen you have an option to give a T and there is not much they can do about it.

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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 01:03pm
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Easy

The best way is if she stads while her team is in possession give her a time-out, That is the only reason she is to be standing (to request a timeout) If she tells you she didn't want one give her the option of the TO or the T for standing after losing the box. I'll bet she wants the TO. Usually if you do this once she will get that she can't stand.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 01:26pm
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The best way is if she stads while her team is in possession give her a time-out, That is the only reason she is to be standing (to request a timeout) If she tells you she didn't want one give her the option of the TO or the T for standing after losing the box. I'll bet she wants the TO. Usually if you do this once she will get that she can't stand.
I LOVE this! I will have to file that away for future use.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 01:35pm
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I appreciate the responses. I agree I can T her and be within my rights. Just not something that game needed. Looking for more discrete tips if you have any. Luckily, she got the message after about the second warning. I then discovered that the assistant coach thought he would play coach. You will all be disappointed that I then just told him to sit down and passed on the T. He did not give me any more trouble, he got the message that I was way beyond pissed with his stunt.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 02:15pm
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On the other hand, if all she does is stand up, yell, "Sarah, you're the 5!!" and then sit right back down again, and then she doesn't stand up again, I didn't even see it happen.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 02:45pm
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I LOVE this! I will have to file that away for future use.
Are you serious? You'd do that instead of warn once and "T"?
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 02:47pm
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This is a good time to talk to an assistant. Tell them you need their help in keeping the coach in the game. If she continues to get up, you have to toss her.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 02:49pm
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On the other hand, if all she does is stand up, yell, "Sarah, you're the 5!!" and then sit right back down again, and then she doesn't stand up again, I didn't even see it happen.
Maybe you misunderstand the definition of "seatbelt"?
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2007, 02:50pm
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I appreciate the responses. I agree I can T her and be within my rights. Just not something that game needed. Looking for more discrete tips if you have any. Luckily, she got the message after about the second warning.
Luckily for you. Saved you having to give out a third warning.

My discrete tip is if you don't have the nads to give out the second "T", don't call the first. That'll save you all the worrying.
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