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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 03:54pm
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The game was neither won nor lost on this single refereeing error -- but rather because of many events during the game. The game is not a 4.4 second game, but a 40 minute game.
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You are 100% right, but a team cannot recover from a (officiating) mistake at the end of a game. Hopefully, that is part of your pre-game.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 04:11pm
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You are 100% right, but a team cannot recover from a (officiating) mistake at the end of a game. Hopefully, that is part of your pre-game.
I understand your point, but I am not sure I agree. The issue is not when an error occurs but what is the outcome. An error leading to 3 points in the first minute of the game, has the same effect as one at the at end of the game (if you lose by 3 points or less). The premise of "recovering" from an error is appealing, but probably not germane -- because a wrong call sometimes has a compounding effect on the wronged team. They are frustrated, may try too hard to make it up. It might aggravate a point drought, etc.

In the end I guess we just have to learn to accept that (to quote Bill Gates) "Life is not fair, get used to it."

I have for years been frustrated at the quality of officiating -- especially in basketball -- but I'm learning to "let it go" so as not to let it detract from the enjoyment of the game.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 05:08pm
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I have for years been frustrated at the quality of officiating -- especially in basketball -- but I'm learning to "let it go" so as not to let it detract from the enjoyment of the game.
We've also learned not to take people like you seriously too.

Please don't take that personal. It's just a fact of life amongst us terrible ol' officials. Fanboys whine. We ignore them. Except when they come on our forum.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 05:56pm
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We've also learned not to take people like you seriously too.

Please don't take that personal. It's just a fact of life amongst us terrible ol' officials. Fanboys whine. We ignore them. Except when they come on our forum.
Oh, I don't take it personally -- I recognize the arguments you present and recognize them for what they are -- weak and illogical. Based on your logic no official should EVER be removed, regardless of how many bad calls they make. Based on your logic no one who has never ref'd that specific sport has any knowledge of the game to judge the RESULTS or VERACITY of an official's call. You are entirely too defensive on this -- and yes "fanboys" have knowledge, wisdom, and judgment. Being an official does not wisdom nor correctness convey -- a point you clear have missed.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 06:46pm
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Oh, I don't take it personally -- I recognize the arguments you present and recognize them for what they are -- weak and illogical. Based on your logic no official should EVER be removed, regardless of how many bad calls they make. Based on your logic no one who has never ref'd that specific sport has any knowledge of the game to judge the RESULTS or VERACITY of an official's call. You are entirely too defensive on this -- and yes "fanboys" have knowledge, wisdom, and judgment. Being an official does not wisdom nor correctness convey -- a point you clear have missed.
No, no no....

You're completely misinterpreting what I'm trying to say.

I'm saying that no official should ever take ignorant fanboys like you seriously. I sureashell don't.

Clowns like you always slither out of their hiding places at this time of year to whine about the mean old referees screwing their teams. It must be a Law of Nature or something because it happens every year. Hey, don't let me stop you though. Do what you gotta do, fanboy. Just don't operate under the illusion that anyone actually takes you or the other fanboys like you seriously. You're comic relief.

Carry on.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 08:21pm
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No, no no....

You're completely misinterpreting what I'm trying to say.

I'm saying that no official should ever take ignorant fanboys like you seriously. I sureashell don't.

Clowns like you always slither out of their hiding places at this time of year to whine about the mean old referees screwing their teams. It must be a Law of Nature or something because it happens every year. Hey, don't let me stop you though. Do what you gotta do, fanboy. Just don't operate under the illusion that anyone actually takes you or the other fanboys like you seriously. You're comic relief.

Carry on.
Once again, when pressed on the facts and logic you resort to personal attacks. You show yourself for what you are. If you think your pitiful assault on fans has any effect at all -- you are sadly mistaken. Debate or argue like an adult, with dignity, logic, and decorum.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 09:07pm
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Once again, when pressed on the facts and logic you resort to personal attacks. You show yourself for what you are. If you think your pitiful assault on fans has any effect at all -- you are sadly mistaken. Debate or argue like an adult, with dignity, logic, and decorum.
Facts and logic? Some ignorant, clueless fan who knows absolutely nothing about basketball officiating thinks that his verbal diarrhea equates to "facts and logic"? How can anybody debate with someone that knows absolutely nothing about the subject that he wants to debate? What color is the sky in your world anyway, fanboy?

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