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rockyroad Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:19pm
A fine example of why the NCAA mechanic of allowing us to bounce the ball across the key to the inbounder is a GREAT mechanic!! Inbounder can go to the other side if he/she wants to and we don't have to switch or rotate or anything...yep, I like it.

Scrapper1 Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
A fine example of why the NCAA women's mechanic of allowing us to bounce the ball across the key to the inbounder is a GREAT mechanic!!
Not for the men's side though. I don't really like it all that much.

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Inbounder can go to the other side if he/she wants to and we don't have to switch or rotate or anything.
Yeah, that extra 5-7 seconds to switch really slows down the game. :)

Dan_ref Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Not for the men's side though. I don't really like it all that much.
Why don't you like it?

I would like to see the men's side adopt this.

rockyroad Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Not for the men's side though. I don't really like it all that much.

Yeah, that extra 5-7 seconds to switch really slows down the game. :)
I didn't realize the men's side didn't do this...hmmm - they should. And it's not the time factor, it's the fact that I might have to jog an extra 40 feet or so to get into a different position when it's not necessary - just bounce it across and let me save my energy!! :D

Scrapper1 Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Why don't you like it?

I would like to see the men's side adopt this.
1) It's just not that hard to switch. So it doesn't really save any significant time or effort. So I'd just as soon do it like every other throw-in.

2) Purely aesthetics, but I think it looks a little lazy. I realize that's a purely subjective thing. But it's just my preference.

Raymond Wed Jan 24, 2007 01:43pm
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Originally Posted by mick
I dunno.
Partners will generally adjust to administrating official after a time-out, I think.
On a designated spot throw-in, yes I would agree. But if the player is free to run the baseline why would I make my partners move?

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Originally Posted by RookieDude
BNR...you keep saying that you have never had a coach ask you what we are discussing.
...and the rest of my statement was "so I've never had to think about it." I in no way discounted the merits of this discussion. Please go back and read all the words in all of my posts.

So here is a question since Dan said after a time-out the coach can request to have the throw-in anywhere he wanted.
A1 retrieves ball after made basket, Team B is pressing, A1 runs to the table-side corner of the endline, realizes he can't get the ball inbounds and requests a TO. Before Team A huddles up Coach A tells you he wants to begin his throw-in at the opposite corner of the base-line.
Do you grant his request?

Adam Wed Jan 24, 2007 01:51pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
So here is a question since Dan said after a time-out the coach can request to have the throw-in anywhere he wanted.
A1 retrieves ball after made basket, Team B is pressing, A1 runs to the table-side corner of the endline, realizes he can't get the ball inbounds and requests a TO. Before Team A huddles up Coach A tells you he wants to begin his throw-in at the opposite corner of the base-line.
Do you grant his request?
I do. <i></i>

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 24, 2007 01:58pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
On a designated spot throw-in, yes I would agree. But if the player is free to run the baseline why would I make my partners move?



...and the rest of my statement was "so I've never had to think about it." I in no way discounted the merits of this discussion. Please go back and read all the words in all of my posts.

So here is a question since Dan said after a time-out the coach can request to have the throw-in anywhere he wanted.
A1 retrieves ball after made basket, Team B is pressing, A1 runs to the table-side corner of the endline, realizes he can't get the ball inbounds and requests a TO. Before Team A huddles up Coach A tells you he wants to begin his throw-in at the opposite corner of the base-line.
Do you grant his request?
Already answered. Case book play 7.5.7SitC(d) says that team A may take their throw-in after the TO from anywhere OOB along the endline. They can pick where they want to start, except in the lane of course.

Dan_ref Wed Jan 24, 2007 01:59pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So here is a question since Dan said after a time-out the coach can request to have the throw-in anywhere he wanted.
A1 retrieves ball after made basket, Team B is pressing, A1 runs to the table-side corner of the endline, realizes he can't get the ball inbounds and requests a TO. Before Team A huddles up Coach A tells you he wants to begin his throw-in at the opposite corner of the base-line.
Do you grant his request?
Let's review: the throw-in is not at any spot, the player is entitled to be anywhere behind the endline from the start to the finish of the throw-in. Where the player is standing when he's granted a timeout does not change that fact.

So based on what rule, exactly, do you not grant his request?

Raymond Wed Jan 24, 2007 02:04pm
Another question...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Already answered. Case book play 7.5.7SitC(d) says that team A may take their throw-in after the TO from anywhere OOB along the endline. They can pick where they want to start, except in the lane of course.
Not being argumentative, just trying learn.
B2 fouls A2 as such that Team A will again have a throw-in with privileges to run the baseline. Do we start the throw-in anywhere or do we start it at point nearest the foul?
Reason I have been debating this situation so much is that I always interpreted "from anywhere OOB along the endline" as meaning the team could run the baseline, I never interpreted it literally as that the team could also request to start the throw-in at any point along the baseline. And as I wrote earlier, I've never had the situation come up so I've never had to think about it before.

jeffpea Wed Jan 24, 2007 02:05pm
If the situation is as described in the OP, just put the ball in play on the side that the coach wants. There are SOOOOOO many other things in a game that are more important to worry about!!!! This isn't one of them....

BTW - anyone remember the UK vs Duke game (aka The Greatest College Game Ever)? Remember that Kentucky scored a basket w/ :02.1 left - Duke then takes a TO (no "spot" determined). Even though the crew wants C opposite the table for last second shot duties, where does Duke put it in? You guessed it, on the endline opposite the table. I'm betting that Duke asked for that side and the official (Tim Higgins) obliged them......take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-iq58_oz4

Guys don't get into a power trip with the coaches on this; let 'em inbound where they want in this situation. What do you care where it gets put in?

Jurassic Referee Wed Jan 24, 2007 02:20pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
B2 fouls A2 as such that Team A will again have a throw-in with privileges to run the baseline. Do we start the throw-in anywhere or do we start it at point nearest the foul?
Reason I have been debating this situation so much is that I always interpreted "from anywhere OOB along the endline" as meaning the team could run the baseline, I never interpreted it literally as that the team could also request to start the throw-in at any point along the baseline.
The answer to your question is "anywhere" imo, News. There's nothing in the rules that I know of that says that they <b>can't</b> start the throw-in anywhere that they want along the endline, if it's an unrestricted throw-in.


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