Illegal Screens

[JRutledge]

I agree that a screener cannot use their arms, lean over or move into the screened player. I usually call this based on what the "screenee" does. If the player being screened just gives up position, I will likely pass on any foul. I will liken my philosophy on screens to what my philosophy on holding in football. The violated players need to do something to get a consistent call.

Now some will say, "You cannot have a philosophy like that; it does not fit the rules." Whatever my philosophy is, I tend to call by far many more illegal screens than anyone. I even had an official in a pre-game say, "I have never called a team control foul and do not see myself calling one."

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I even had an official in a pre-game say, "I have never called a team control foul and do not see myself calling one."

Peace

My goodness.

If he told me that I would have an illegal screen in his area within the first 2 minutes of the game.

geeze.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

My goodness.

If he told me that I would have an illegal screen in his area within the first 2 minutes of the game.

geeze.

He must be on crack!, Not Rut, but the partner that made that statement.

[blindzebra]

Frankly, I can see no benefit from teaching that position, and without seeing it, I have a difficult time seeing it as being a natural stance.

To squat and lean back, most likely requires a base wider than shoulder width, which can get you called for an illegal screen if the defender gets caught up on the extended leg when going around.

The extended arms means first contact is with the arms of the screener, which can also get you called.

Seems to me to be a very bad technique even if it is perfectly done.

Remember screens are supposed to be a passive act, every thing about that stance is aggressive.

[riden]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Frankly, I can see no benefit from teaching that position, and without seeing it, I have a difficult time seeing it as being a natural stance.

The benefit is you get your hands in a ready postion to receive a pass faster.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by riden

The benefit is you get your hands in a ready postion to receive a pass faster.

How is that a benefit when you're setting a screen? You ain't gonna get a pass.

[riden]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

How is that a benefit when you're setting a screen? You ain't gonna get a pass.

Puts you in position for the pick and roll faster and you start with your hands up.

[swkansasref33]

Originally Posted by riden

Puts you in position for the pick and roll faster and you start with your hands up.

What? what does having your hands up have to do with the pick and roll? I was taught never to verbalize or show that you are open... especially on this play... If I set a screen, and was open, the ball-handler better get me the ball, because he should be looking at me right after the pick... and you would normally get a bounce pass off a pick and roll

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by riden

The benefit is you get your hands in a ready postion to receive a pass faster.

There's no pass to receive when the ball is going the other way on the foul.