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If this is what you guys are teaching it is not a natural stance and is illegal and probably amounts to rough play. I don't ever see this in the games I work, probably because running into a screener with elbows extended frontward and then being held by the screener would not lead to anything good for the screener. Do you woman's officials see this in your games?
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Well, as they say: If coaches and players didn't lie or cheat, they wouldn't need referees.
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I don't know that it is completely illegal. I do know it is a judgment call, and in the judgment of dozens of officials over the past several years, it is completely LEGAL. If one gets called, then it is ILLEGAL, and we'll abide by that judgment. Get off your soapbox and join us back here in the real world.
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How can extending elbows forward in this un-natural manner to screen and then hold NOT be illegal?
There are 3 possibilities: - Coach is not describing what he's actually teaching well enough in his posts - Players are not actually executing on the court what coach is teaching - The officials the coach run in to are not seeing this illegal action or they are ignoring it. I know some PA officials so I doubt it's the third option (but if it is I wonder what other rough play they are letting go ). As I said I don't see this in my games, but if I did I would make sure it didn't happen twice...unless the screened player did that for me.
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Not you guys, I never said anything about the notch. What he is teaching and what I am tallking about, are two different things. Not talking about aggresion or elbows to the throat. I never said anything about that. The thread has been hijacked, but the original question has only been answered by a few. Ignoring Penn Coachs tactic, is he/she out of the cylinder.? Last edited by riden; Wed Jan 24, 2007 at 12:06pm. |
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Extending the arms fully or partially other than vertically so that freedom of movement of an opponent is hindered when contact with the arms occurs is not legal. These positions are employed when rebounding, screening or in various aspects of postplay...That is directly from the rule book 10.6.1. A player shall not: hold, push, charge, trip; nor impede the progress of an opponent by extending an arm, shoulder, hip or knee, or by bending the body into other than a normal position...also from 10.6.1 There you have it, IT'S ILLEGAL! |
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....besides BI .... I used to teach boys JV to cover the family jewels. But now that I have girls I tell them to cover whatever you want, just make sure the Officials can see your hands and arms up againt your bodies somewhere. My girls tend to lean forward on setting screens....anticipating and bracing for a train wreck.....can't seem to break them of that. When they lean out, the "I Dream of Jeannie" pose comes out. We have at least one illegal screen/game |
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