2-person Long-Switching

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Yes it's ludicrous.

When I work HS 2 whistle games I pregame no long switch. If my partner gets nervous and insists on the long switch I'll say sure, fine, but be ready for me to forget every now and then.

It always works out, I've never had to T a coach because he jumped up and screamed "You guys missed that one AND you didn't long switch!!!"

See, that's the thing - I just started (this season) running into partners who will basically refuse to do it because "that's not how they want us to do it here" - for fear of being dinged while evaluated (keep in mind, these are people that are not going to be working any post-season games, by a long-shot). Then when it happens, it throws me off. It's my shortcoming, I realize, when I let it stump me, more or less, and I'm overcoming it, but I'm not going to start liking it, nor stop trying to get partners to NOT do it.

Edited to include - I've NEVER been dinged for this in two-person game evaluations, either, anywhere I've worked.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

See, that's the thing - I just started (this season) running into partners who will basically refuse to do it because "that's not how they want us to do it here" - for fear of being dinged while evaluated (keep in mind, these are people that are not going to be working any post-season games, by a long-shot). Then when it happens, it throws me off. It's my shortcoming, I realize, when I let it stump me, more or less, and I'm overcoming it, but I'm not going to start liking it, nor stop trying to get partners to NOT do it.

Edited to include - I've NEVER been dinged for this in two-person game evaluations, either, anywhere I've worked.

I find the first time they jog down court after reporting a foul in the back court and run into me already at new lead they get the message.

"I told you I would forget and I aint running back down there now."

If I have the foul it's no big deal to see them coming to replace me so I just keep going down court.

Yeah, and it's mostly the guys afraid of getting dinged...

Them: "so let's pregame where we stand during time outs"
Me: "Nah, let's pregame basketball instead."

[JRutledge]

We must understand that mechanics are not like rules. The Mechanics books are guides for basic procedures. If your state or area wants to change them, they can do that. For example our state does not want us to bounce the ball from the Lead or New Trail positions to the thrower. In the NF mechanics I believe there is an option. So if your state does not want to switch on all fouls, then that might be something your state would mandate. If you have no specific procedure from the NF, then you can do what you think is best. Not all issues are listed in the NF Official's Manual. I do not even think the "bump and run" is advocated. At least when I started it was not but it was a very common mechanic we used.

BTW Basketball is the only sport we follow the mechanics book in my state pretty much to the letter out of the three sports I work. In Football and Baseball most of what the NF puts in those manuals does not apply to us. And these are two sports we have NF Committee members directly from the IHSA office. So that should tell you how important those books are to the NF.

Peace

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not even think the "bump and run" is advocated. At least when I started it was not but it was a very common mechanic we used.

FYI - Jrut - It's in there now.

Originally Posted by OFFICIALS MANUAL

Basic Procedures and Mechanics - Two Officials - Throw-In
218. Other Throw-in situations:
c. Backcourt. The new Trail official shall administer all throw-ins in the backcourt and may need to change sides of the court ("bump and run") depending on the throw-in spot.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Officials Manual

Basic Procedures and Mechanics....