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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 02:49pm
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If the whistle is for a foul you get a new clock anyways. If not I would say having definite knowledge about elapsed time can be replaced.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:19pm
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If the whistle is for a foul you get a new clock anyways.
Yes, but what if the sequence is foul, horn, release, ball goes in. Since the foul came before the horn, the horn never should've sounded. So do you count the basket or not?

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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:21pm
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damn thats a good one -- if he wasnt fouled it would have been a clear SC violation -- but in this stich i would not know how or where to cite.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:42pm
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It's a live ball that becomes dead on the SC violation, it's pretty difficult to invision enough hangtime by the shooter to have an obvious timing error in the foul, whistle, horn, shot sequence. 6.6.2 exceptions 2 and 3 talk about quarters ending, but the idea is the same.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 04:21pm
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The amount of time it take to progress from starting the act of shooting to the release is not specified. That interval of time can most definitely be affected by a foul. In absense of a foul, the shot may or may not have been released in time. Being forced to put up a shot through the foul can (and usually will) cause the shooting motion to take a little longer....particularly if the foul is very early in the shooting motion such as when the player is pivoting prior to releasing the ball on a typical post move.

I'm of the camp that if the foul is committed (and the whistle is blown) before the horn, then the clock was not properly stopped and horn sounded in error and is, as a result, irrelevant.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 06:32pm
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Count the bucket, shoot one, keep playing. Player was fouled in the act of shooting, habitual motion has started. If it's not the end of the game, don't beat yourself up.
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