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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 08:11pm
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What's the call

Ball is in partner's area. A2 and B2 end up on the ground. Partner calls A2 for blocking. A2 is mad and complains about the call. Partner verbally warns A2. Ball, OOB to B.

B2 receives ball from the throw-in at the division line and has a clear line to his basket with A2 in pursuit. B2 goes up in the air for the layup and A2 lowers his shoulder and undercuts B2 from behind.

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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 08:15pm
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Have to be there, could be common foul or intentional. Flagrant is unlikely but is a possibility.
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 08:25pm
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You can usually look at a player and see what his intent is. The way it sounds the player was coming after his opponent. I would give a Flagrant and toss him
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 09:18pm
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Keep in mind that in some states ( Mine ) when you toss a kid, they loss the next 2 games too. I would call the intentional. Worse case, I ask the coach to remove him for the kid's sake.
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Keep in mind that in some states ( Mine ) when you toss a kid, they loss the next 2 games too. I would call the intentional. Worse case, I ask the coach to remove him for the kid's sake.
In our state, a 2nd T merits the same punishment. Should the kid get a free pass because you don't want him or her to have to miss games?
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 09:32pm
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B2 goes up in the air for the layup and A2 lowers his shoulder and undercuts B2 from behind.

What's the call?
Sounds like the same sitch I had Tuesday night. I handed out an intentional. No one complained, but the more I thought about it that night after the game, the more I wished I went with the flagrant. Undercutting an airborne player seems like a pretty malicious act.
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 10:26pm
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At a minimum, an intentional, depending on your feel for the situation, could also have been a flagrant.
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More than likely, I would give him a flagrant T, because it seems obvious to me that it was his intent to undercut the player. BUT, since I wasn't there, I cannot say FOR SURE that it was his intent to do so. But it would get AT LEAST an intentional from me. And I'm with BadZebra...
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2007, 11:33pm
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More than likely, I would give him a flagrant T...
S-dub, in this sitch you would have a flagrant personal, not a flagrant T.
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