Warm up dunks

[bseybs32]

JV boys game. Actual situation.

Players are dunking in warm ups with officials present.
Guilty players are believed to be members of the Varsity squad.
Guilty players have on t-shirts with their schools logo and name, etc.
Guilty players are not listed in the JV scorebook as participants.

Officials administer "T" for dunking. Guilty teams coaches argue that officials can not adiminster "T" against them since the guilty players are not part of the game roster.

Officials state that since guilty players are on the court with 'scorebook' participants that they must be part of the overall 'team' and illegal players at the time.

I feel the "T" was warranted, but he explanation wasn't very strong.

Was this situation handled properly?

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by bseybs32

JV boys game. Actual situation.

Players are dunking in warm ups with officials present.
Guilty players are believed to be members of the Varsity squad.
Guilty players have on t-shirts with their schools logo and name, etc.
Guilty players are not listed in the JV scorebook as participants.

Officials administer "T" for dunking. Guilty teams coaches argue that officials can not adiminster "T" against them since the guilty players are not part of the game roster.

Officials state that since guilty players are on the court with 'scorebook' participants that they must be part of the overall 'team' and illegal players at the time.

I feel the "T" was warranted, but he explanation wasn't very strong.

Was this situation handled properly?

We had this discussion a while back, and I think the majority felt that all non-player personnel should then be cleared from the court with no 'T'. Or do I remember wrong?

[deecee]

no and we have discussed this before -- how do you T up someone not involved in the game being played -- all you can do is tell game management to get them off the court.

inform the varisty officials of what happend and hopefully if they dunk this time he wont warn and he will just ring em up.

[Raymond]

This has been discussed before but no one gave a definitive answer.

To me it would be a game management issue. If they are not team members I would have game management (or the coach) direct them to leave the court. I would think the JV coach wouldn't want varsity players interfering with JV warm-ups.

If it continued I suppose you could try to conjure up some sort of team technical and/or indirect technical against the coach but good luck finding a rules reference to back you up.

[bseybs32]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This has been discussed before but no one gave a definitive answer.

To me it would be a game management issue. If they are not team members I would have game management (or the coach) direct them to leave the court. I would think the JV coach wouldn't want varsity players interfering with JV warm-ups.

If it continued I suppose you could try to conjure up some sort of team technical and/or indirect technical against the coach but good luck finding a rules reference to back you up.

sorry, i tried searching for the topic.

Thank you for the help.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by bseybs32

sorry, i tried searching for the topic.

Thank you for the help.

I remember the discussion. It was at the McGriff's forum.