5 point play in NFHS?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

On "Making the Call with Ronnie Nunn" the other day, they showed an unsual play from an NBA game and I was wondering what the penalty would be if this happened in a HS game.

A1 was near the low block on the right, driving to the hoop. As he shot, he was fouled by B1. B2 is on the opposite block and runs over to block the shot, grabbing the rim as he goes by it, then blocking the shot.

Would the penalty for this be:
count the basket, due to basket interference for 2 points
one shot for the foul on B1
another 2 foul shots, plus the ball for a technical foul on B2 for grabbing the rim to block the shot?

Why are we counting the basket? You said B2 grabbed the rim and blocked the shot.

NFHS: Personal foul on B1 and Technical foul on B2 for grabbing the rim. A1 gets 2 shots for the personal foul. Any Team A member(s) shoot 2 free throws for the technical foul. Team A gets ball at division line.

NCAA: Personal foul on B1 and Technical foul on B2 for grabbing the rim. Any Team A member gets 2 shots for the technical foul. Then resume from POI, which is A1 on the free throw line (for 2 shots) with members of Team B occupying the lower 2 blocks.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Why are we counting the basket? You said B2 grabbed the rim and blocked the shot.

So this is not basket interference or goaltending? The only penalty is the technical foul?

What if the ball were in the cylinder? I didn't really notice, I'll have to check the tape later.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

What if the ball were in the cylinder?

Again, grabbing the rim while the ball is in the cylinder is not a BI violation under FED and NCAA rules, and never has been.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Again, grabbing the rim while the ball is in the cylinder is not a BI violation under FED and NCAA rules, and never has been.

Thanks. I get confused by the conditions of the four articles of the definition, as some mention the cylinder and some mention the ring, but they're also talking about where the defender's hand is. I also misinterpreted "within the basket" to mean "within the cylinder".

Gotta learn how to read one of these days.

[FrankHtown]

5 point play???? A1 attempts a 3 pointer. While in the act of shooting, gets fouled by B1 and B2 at the same time. Shot goes in. A1 get one free throw for each foul, 2 total. The dreaded multiple foul penalty.

Also, if A1 attempts a 3 pointer, and is fouled by B1 and B2 at the same time, and the try is not successful, A1 gets 4 free throws, as the multiple foul penalty.

Of course, I did forget the 2 free throws on the coach after you attempt to explain this.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

5 point play???? A1 attempts a 3 pointer. While in the act of shooting, gets fouled by B1 and B2 at the same time. Shot goes in. A1 get one free throw for each foul, 2 total. The dreaded multiple foul penalty.

Also, if A1 attempts a 3 pointer, and is fouled by B1 and B2 at the same time, and the try is not successful, A1 gets 4 free throws, as the multiple foul penalty.

Of course, I did forget the 2 free throws on the coach after you attempt to explain this.

While very true by rule, if it happens, you better have a foul on B1 or B2. But I'm sure you know that!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

5 point play???? A1 attempts a 3 pointer. While in the act of shooting, gets fouled by B1 and B2 at the same time.

What if he gets fouled by B1, B2 and B3 at the same time?

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

What if he gets fouled by B1, B2 and B3 at the same time?

Then he has no business shooting, because A2 and A3 are wide open!