What did the crew miss?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

It's possible as per NFHS rule 10-3-5(a).

Thank you. I was thinking perhaps his hand just accidentally brushed against the rim, since none of the refs saw it. I would think if he grabbed it or used it for leverage to gain an advantage it would be seen. Hard to say based on the post how it was actually touched.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Thank you. I was thinking perhaps his hand just accidentally brushed against the rim, since none of the refs saw it. I would think if he grabbed it or used it for leverage to gain an advantage it would be seen. Hard to say based on the post how it was actually touched.

That's exactly why I said that it was always a judgement call, Smitty. "Accidentally" is OK. Gaining an advantage isn't. Mileage may vary.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Thank you. I was thinking perhaps his hand just accidentally brushed against the rim, since none of the refs saw it. I would think if he grabbed it or used it for leverage to gain an advantage it would be seen. Hard to say based on the post how it was actually touched.

I was just trying to give a few "hints" as to what an official may call. That is also why I muddled it with a possible correctable error call.

As usual...JR answered the sitch with references. Snagwells got what I was looking for as well.

If the crew had judged the touch to be an advantage...you have a T on A2.

JR...I didn't want to spoon feed this one...but, I was going to use the "picture book" reference on pg. 117... 10-3-6

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

SnaQwells got what I was looking for as well.

I'm just saying....

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

As usual...JR answered the sitch with references. Snagwells got what I was looking for as well.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm just saying....

Gee, I don't know, Adam. I kinda like the "snag" reference. like being a good rebounder? like Snagletooth the Lion? Snaq sort of sounds like a big oaf, or someone who eats too much. But I'll be merciful and abide by your preferences...

[jontheref]

Can I get in on this....I had not necessarily this same sitch, but, I had a guy in a jv game actually do a pullup on the rim. I only penalized the infraction but not the T but now I am wondering whether I should have done both?

[armymanjones]

Originally Posted by jontheref

Can I get in on this....I had not necessarily this same sitch, but, I had a guy in a jv game actually do a pullup on the rim. I only penalized the infraction but not the T but now I am wondering whether I should have done both?

The situation you described seems to me if he wasn't holding on to avoid injury it should have been a T.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jontheref

Can I get in on this....I had not necessarily this same sitch, but, I had a guy in a jv game actually do a pullup on the rim. I only penalized the infraction but not the T but now I am wondering whether I should have done both?

A pull-up on the rim is a T. What is the infraction to which you are referring?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

A pull-up on the rim is a T. What is the infraction to which you are referring?

BI

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

BI

He didn't describe the play. He could have done a pull-up after mis-timing a rebound.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jontheref

Can I get in on this....I had not necessarily this same sitch, but, I had a guy in a jv game actually do a pullup on the rim. I only penalized the infraction but not the T but now I am wondering whether I should have done both?

If it was BI, then you should have called both. This is per casebook play something.something.something, situation something.