Ready and waiting with the T

[tomegun]

OK, I will try to work on reducing my T count.

No, take every situation and evaluate the reason why he gave a technical foul. After the next time you work with him (or now if you remember) come back and tell us a specific situation that happened.
I believe there aren't enough technical fouls called in high school games. Almost every place I've worked, there could be at least one legitimate reason to call a technical. I will be interested to hear what he is calling technicals for.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

OK, I will try to work on reducing my T count.

No, take every situation and evaluate the reason why he gave a technical foul. After the next time you work with him (or now if you remember) come back and tell us a specific situation that happened.
I believe there aren't enough technical fouls called in high school games. Almost every place I've worked, there could be at least one legitimate reason to call a technical. I will be interested to hear what he is calling technicals for.

I agree that not enough T's are called. So far this week I have seen a thrown clipboard and a coach , standing at the division line , 5 feet into the court, yelling at a ref. The refs had nothing. They apparently were exercising their game management skills.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I agree that not enough T's are called. So far this week I have seen a thrown clipboard and a coach , standing at the division line , 5 feet into the court, yelling at a ref. The refs had nothing. They apparently were exercising their game management skills.....

Sadly, that's become the most-used excuse for someone who's trying to rationalize away their failure to control unsporting behavior. All it means is that the NFHS and NCAA will just issue the exact same POE and bulletin- again- pleading with officials to start calling this crap.

[refnjoe]

As a rookie, Im glad to hear the different perspectives on this. I've called a few techs this season, and have wondered about it.

One of my mentors told me early on that one of the hardest things for a rookie to learn is when to call the T. I haven't really had this problem much, with one exception, and began to wonder if I needed to learn when NOT to call it.

Your comments and feedback helped me to think Im on the right track...

[armymanjones]

I believe a T should be called when warranted by the rules and to manage a game when unsportsmanlike activity is occuring. As far as a fan is concerned, that is for school management. The official is to point it out if he feels it needs to be addressed. I have a problem if the official gets personal about it and allows fans to get under their skin where they get into a verbal confrontation. The official I originally started this thread about constantly gets into these confrontations and warns the fan that if he hears one more word he will put them out. In one occasion he actually stood there and waited to see if the person said antoher word. He was the R on this game but I did pull him aside at the half and let him know we need to focus more on the game. I didn't hear the whole conversation but as I recall he was reperting a foul and the fan was continuosly saying "call it both ways" and " we know you are a homer". Do I consider this grounds for removal of the fan? In this case no, but if he was being beligerant maybe.

[Junker]

I can understand your problem with an official that gets into confrontations with fans. That shouldn't happen. They should be letting game management take care of fan problems. Now, if it's a weekend deal, or lower level where there really isn't game management I have no problem with the official tossing someone for calling them a homer, especially if it was directly in the official's face.

[armymanjones]

Originally Posted by Junker

I can understand your problem with an official that gets into confrontations with fans. That shouldn't happen. They should be letting game management take care of fan problems. Now, if it's a weekend deal, or lower level where there really isn't game management I have no problem with the official tossing someone for calling them a homer, especially if it was directly in the official's face.

These are all HS games

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I agree that not enough T's are called. So far this week I have seen a thrown clipboard and a coach , standing at the division line , 5 feet into the court, yelling at a ref. The refs had nothing. They apparently were exercising their game management skills.....

My most regrettable play of the year: Not calling a T on a coach who slammed his clipboard in anger over a bad play by his player. (2-man)I'm lead, opposite table, on Coach A's end of the court. A1 makes some kind of horrible play. I hear, but don't see, an object slamming on the floor. The sound clearly came from Team A's bench. I immediately look over and see the coach picking up his clipboard.

My partner was trail, table-side. When he didn't blow his whistle I should have stepped and did the job.

[armymanjones]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

My most regrettable play of the year: Not calling a T on a coach who slammed his clipboard in anger over a bad play by his player. (2-man)I'm lead, opposite table, on Coach A's end of the court. A1 makes some kind of horrible play. I hear, but don't see, an object slamming on the floor. The sound clearly came from Team A's bench. I immediately look over and see the coach picking up his clipboard.

My partner was trail, table-side. When he didn't blow his whistle I should have stepped and did the job.

Had a similar play and I did T the coach and he couldn't understand why I T'd him up because he was not complaining about a call just upset with his players. I explained it was unsportsmanlike even if he was not directing it at the officials. Same as if he was using foul language in the huddle that I and everyone else could hear.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by armymanjones

Had a similar play and I did T the coach and he couldn't understand why I T'd him up because he was not complaining about a call just upset with his players. I explained it was unsportsmanlike even if he was not directing it at the officials. Same as if he was using foul language in the huddle that I and everyone else could hear.

Good call. I took some heat in a JV game this season from a coach because I whacked a player for slapping the floor with two hands after a steal. I think these acts are unsportsmanlike and need to be taken care of. The coach, suprisingly, disagreed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Junker

Good call. I took some heat in a JV game this season from a coach because I whacked a player for slapping the floor with two hands after a steal. I think these acts are unsportsmanlike and need to be taken care of. The coach, suprisingly, disagreed.

It's just like throwing the ball against the wall after getting beat for a layup.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

My most regrettable play of the year: Not calling a T on a coach who slammed his clipboard in anger over a bad play by his player. (2-man)I'm lead, opposite table, on Coach A's end of the court. A1 makes some kind of horrible play. I hear, but don't see, an object slamming on the floor. The sound clearly came from Team A's bench. I immediately look over and see the coach picking up his clipboard.

My partner was trail, table-side. When he didn't blow his whistle I should have stepped and did the job.

I can see why you'd feel like you left one out there, but if you didn't actually see it, I don't know that you necessarily want to call it. I am 99.99999% sure a coach kicked a bench on me earlier this season, but I didn't see it, so I didn't call it. Calling a T for something you don't actually see could get you in some trouble.