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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 11:43am
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Just don't mistake tolerance for being SOFT!
Get it when it needs Gotten....
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 11:46am
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its not about tolerance -- its more about coaches knowing the proper way to talk to talk to officials and proper procedure to display their displeasure.
I have a rule that if a coach wants to complain fine (as long as hes just venting in a non line crossing way) -- but by the time I make it back up the court the next time he better have moved on or I will help him. Besides you are really setting the bar low for future refs who might not be as tolerant as you and you let him rant about ONE call for 3 trips up the court by the time you got him. I am sorry but you are just making it much more difficult for future refs who get this guy. I gave a coach a T last week pretty much because he had something to say every time a whistle blew against his team -- I let him know that venting is fine but he needs to be a bit more selective and less demonstrative -- did he get the hint? I had a call from lead on a baseline turnaround where the help defender (coming from high side) reached in and grabbed the off hand of the shooter -- coach -- "Horrible" with the throwing the arms at me action -- ummm yeah ok T -- so 4 shots later and the ball now it goes from about a tie game to a 5 point game.
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 12:08pm
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 12:14pm
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I think a big issue that needs to be addressed is what constitutes an unsporting act. One of the assignors I work for is really getting after officials that allow coaches too much leash on the sidelines. He makes a great point that if you don't take care of sportsmanship when it needs to be you are doing the rest of the officials on staff a disservice. You are inadvertantly sending a message to the coach that their behavior is perfectly fine. Obviously this is an area where consistency is difficult, but I think within conferences and leagues we really need to be on the same page as officials.
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 12:27pm
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 12:35pm
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 01:13pm
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Nobody likes to give out technical fouls but this coach crossed the line very early in your game and you failed to address it at all. Possibly if you would have communicated with him or given him a stop sign early he would have stopped and maybe not. Sometimes no matter how good we communicate a coach is going to get whacked. Technical fouls are part of the game and we need to use them we a coach has earned one, and it sounds like he earned about a dozen in your game.
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 01:38pm
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Saw the name of the thread and... Anyway, way back I used to be too slow in calling T's. I've gotten better, and for the most part, my games have gotten better as well, from a game-managment standpoint. I used to think letting some things slide ("Oh, let the coach have his say", "I'll just ignore him", etc.) was good game management. I've figured out calling the T is usually better game management. If I walk away from a game asking myself if I should've called the T, or should've called it earlier, than I probably should have. I can only thing of one or two times in my whole career where I walked away asking if I should not have given the T. That's usually a good indication that I haven't called enough. In the OP, I would've told the coach he said enough long before IREFU2 took care of it. I call those ABS T's. (Accumulated B***S***).
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 01:48pm
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 When you say nobody likes to give out technicals, are you saying officials dislike it? How about those of us that could care less because it is a part of the game? It is very simple, someone does something to earn a technical, they get a technical. If someone doesn't do anything to earn a technical, they will not get a technical. It isn't about like or dislike, it is about officiating a game I love the proper way!
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 02:12pm
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Often times coaches actually try to get a T. It is the same as in baseball when a manager comes out to argue a call when he knows the umpire is right or he wants to get ejected. It can fire up his team. The coach can lose respect for you if you don't whack him when he needs to be whacked.
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Wed Dec 20, 2006, 02:38pm
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just adding background to OP's situation
IREFU2 is a good buddy of mine and I immediately called him at work when I read his post. I agree that he took too long to serve this 'T'.
What is ironic is after discussing the situation, the coach involved, and the coaches actions the rest of the game (he didn't say another word after the 'T'), IREFU2 and I surmised that this was a situation of a coach purposely fishing for a 'T'. His team was underachieving against an inferior team and he was looking for some sort of spark to get his team motivated.
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