What would it take for a double T on a 13 year old boy?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually Old School I did not make any comparison about Catholic schools

You bought it into the discussion which means you are wrong again.

You on the other hand compared the fight in the NBA to the Black community and suggested that the two somehow tied into each other

Yes, black on black crime, Humm..., they do kind of tie together, don't they? But the Catholic community, NOT! How did we get here again?

Then on the other hand, I am not the only person here questioning your background or your officiating ability.

People always question someones ability when they dare to speak the truth. Yes, my intergity is in question, but my message stays the same. Isiah started it!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Old School

Yes, black on black crime, Humm..., they do kind of tie together, don't they? But the Catholic community, NOT! How did we get here again?

Can you tell me who was arrested for this fight in MSG? Can you name one person? The fight did not happen in the middle of a playground somewhere, it happen during a sporting event. And the fact that you even said Black on Black crime shows how stupid you are. So if there was a white player and a Black player that threw punches in this game, would have have considered this a racial riot?

Originally Posted by Old School

People always question someones ability when they dare to speak the truth. Yes, my intergity is in question, but my message stays the same. Isiah started it!

I am questioning your ability because of the responses you have given in this post and others. They are so way off base or out of many officials are taught or experience, it is clear to me that you are trying to make yourself out to be something that you are not. Also have never had a major pre-game issue with very experienced officials on what to do on a T other than we usually talk about not giving a coach a free shot at each of us without penalty. I never tell someone how to handle a coach or what to do if their behavior is out of line. I will agree that a non-calling official can be a calming influence because they likely are not the officials a coach is mad at. But that does not mean they get a free shot or it would be the non-calling official's job to calm anyone down. If the coach or player pops off, then they are the ones that rolled the dice. Not everyone is going to tolerate your BS. The way you talk about things is the reason I think you are clueless and the discussion above is confirms to me why you are clueless. Black on Black crime now that was funny.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Can you tell me who was arrested for this fight in MSG? Can you name one person? The fight did not happen in the middle of a playground somewhere, it happen during a sporting event. And the fact that you even said Black on Black crime shows how stupid you are. So if there was a white player and a Black player that threw punches in this game, would have have considered this a racial riot?

Every time I think I should stop reading this incessant thread, someone makes a funny.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They are so way off base or out of many officials are taught or experience, it is clear to me that you are trying to make yourself out to be something that you are not.

No, you and the others are.

Also have never had a major pre-game issue with very experienced officials on what to do on a T other than we usually talk about not giving a coach a free shot at each of us without penalty.

Judging by all of your posts, maybe you need to start.

I never tell someone how to handle a coach or what to do if their behavior is out of line. I will agree that a non-calling official can be a calming influence because they likely are not the officials a coach is mad at.

Bingo! Point made! That is all I am trying to convey.

It only took six pages and a ton of insults. Believe it or not, you guys are improving. There is hope for you old dogs to learn something new.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Old School

No, you and the others are.

Then you need to say this to the multiple D1 officials that told me this directly at camps or in conversation. Not saying they are right, but I bet they are working games you have not worked and there is more at stake for their mistakes.

Originally Posted by Old School

Judging by all of your posts, maybe you need to start.

Bingo! Point made! That is all I am trying to convey.

It only took six pages and a ton of insults. Believe it or not, you guys are improving. There is hope for you old dogs to learn something new.

Go back to the rec league and try that crap there. It is obvious you are a wannabe trying to prove you know something. Maybe your real name is JMO.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Maybe your real name is JMO.

Naw, just his posting name at McGriffs. Hey, he's doing exactly what he did at McGriffs too. Argue with everybody about basics. We've already established from other threads that he doesn't own any rulebooks, case books or the MANUAL, which is all you need to know about his claims about being an official. He keeps the masquerade going though. Unbelievable.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

We've already established from other threads that he doesn't own any rulebooks, case books or the MANUAL, which is all you need to know about his claims about being an official. He keeps the masquerade going though. Unbelievable.

A wise man once said, don't believe everything you read.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

A wise man once said, don't believe everything you read.

I don't believe anything that I read of yours, JMO. I guess that makes me a wise man, eh?

[Adam]

Dr., I think we're ready for a diagnosis now.

Narcissistic Delusions of Grandeur projecting his faults onto others around him.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Old School

It is obvious that you can't handle the truth. You can't handle a different way of resolving a problem, you can't handle someone challenging your position. You are true to the bone, pigheaded, know-it-all officials. Keep doing what you do because you make it possible for guys like me to move up. Reason, fresh new ideas....

First of all I do not care what position you take, I feel it is a dumb position you are taking. If you want to jump up and down and get in the way of the coach and your partner and it works for you, be my guest. I do not give a damn what you do. I am just pointing out those officials that work games at a higher level than most here do not agree with your position. Also I do not give out a lot of Ts because I do not have to. And when I speak to coaches, they do not challenge many things I say. I never have to calm down a coach, I tell them what took place and I tell them I will find out information from other officials when needed. And depending on where you claim you are moving up to, it is not going to go over well if you are trying to justify something to a coach about a veterans call. But you seemed to know better than anyone. It is not like you are not talking to a lot of very experience officials on this site. You just have proven that you know nothing about officiating and trying to convince the rest of us you do. Now that is the truth, can you handle those apples?

Peace

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

First of all I do not care what position you take. Yes you do, that's why you keep responding..

If you want to jump up and down and get in the way of the coach and your partner and it works for you, be my guest. Where did I ever say this? Let's not make up stuff.

I am just pointing out those officials that work games at a higher level than most here do not agree with your position. Don't care, it is okay to disagree.

Also I do not give out a lot of Ts because I do not have to. Don't recall ever asking you if you did.

I never have to calm down a coach. My position is not to calm down a coach. I have stated that fairly clearly numerous times.

And depending on where you claim you are moving up to, it is not going to go over well if you are trying to justify something to a coach about a veterans call. I would never try to justify another referee's call. either I have definite knowledge or I don't. If I don't I say I don't.

But you seemed to know better than anyone. No, this is your perception.

You just have proven that you know nothing about officiating and trying to convince the rest of us you do. No! again, you are the one trying to do all the convincing here. I merely state my position and stand by it, period.

Now, can you handle those apples?

Peace

A wise man once said, be weary of those who try to lift themselves at the expense of others!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Old School

Yes you do, that's why you keep responding..

I keep responding because I can. You are not going to stop me. BTW, you have responded to more of my posts in this thread and others than I have ever responded to you. What now?

Originally Posted by Old School

If you want to jump up and down and get in the way of the coach and your partner and it works for you, be my guest. Where did I ever say this? Let's not make up stuff.

It is called sarcasm. If you had much of a brain, you would have picked up on this.

Originally Posted by Old School

Don't care, it is okay to disagree.

Neither do I, but you responded. I guess you really really care.

Originally Posted by Old School

Don't recall ever asking you if you did.

But you pre-game this in all your "big games." So it must be something you are struggling with.

Originally Posted by Old School

My position is not to calm down a coach. I have stated that fairly clearly numerous times.

This is your exact quote,

Originally Posted by Old School

"If we got a volatile situation, we get the calling official out of there. The thinking is to protect the official, protect the coach, protect the integrity of the game, protect our game. If we can handle the situation without ejecting the coach, we are going to try. If the coach wants to air his concerns, he can air it to one of the non-calling officials. The non-calling officials job is to calm the coach and listen to the their concerns. 9 out of 10 times this works and we can continue the game w/o any ejections. In the one time it doesn't, we still follow our procedures and if we do it right, another official will signal the 2nd T."

Originally Posted by Old School

"I would never try to justify another referee's call. either I have definite knowledge or I don't. If I don't I say I don't.

What ever man.

Originally Posted by Old School

No, this is your perception.

I am not the only one that seems to have that impression of you.

Originally Posted by Old School

"No! again, you are the one trying to do all the convincing here. I merely state my position and stand by it, period.

He is the thing cappy, this is my real name. This is my real identity. I do not have a funny name to hide behind. I have actually worked with or been to camps with a few people on this site. Or there are people who know exactly who I am or people that have worked with me. I do not need to convince anyone of anything because you and others could look me up. You on the other hand have tried to make it seem like you know what you are talking about, but then you sound like some rookie that has never been in the fire. If you had, you would have never made the comments you did just in this thread alone.

Peace