What would it take for a double T on a 13 year old boy?

[Ignats75]

I had a similar experience a couple of years ago. Girls JV. Coach was a notorious whiner. Basically reffing from the bench. His team was lightyears better than the team they were playing, but due to his lack of focus on the game and instead having it on us, his team went in at halftime down 18 points. During our pregame, we basically said that we were just going to ignore him unless he directly showed us up to the crowd or got pesronally abusive to one of us.

At the half, I told my partner that he is approaching the point of getting whacked. First play of the second half, I am the Trail near his bench. Ball is on the baseline at the far end of the court and there is a routine out of bounds that my partner give to the other team. He complained about the call.

Without turning around, I gave him a VERY HIGH stop sign (so the video would catch it) and said, "OK coach I've had enough." He responded with "So have I". TWEET WHACK!

Now having to sit down, shut up and coach his team, they came back and won in OT.

As an aside, usually, teams take on the personality of their coach. If he's a complainer, then his players will complain and lose focus. They don't usually react well to any adversity that occurs in their game.

I tend to ignore coaches and not whack them. Some senior officials have told me I should whack them sooner, but most of my assignors (I work in 4 conferences) have indicated that they would prefer the way I do it, than become known as Mr. T.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

...During our pregame, we basically said that we were just going to ignore him unless he directly showed us up to the crowd or got pesronally abusive to one of us.

Why would you ignore him?

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Without turning around, I gave him a VERY HIGH stop sign (so the video would catch it) and said, "OK coach I've had enough." He responded with "So have I". TWEET WHACK!

Originally Posted by Ignats75

I tend to ignore coaches and not whack them. Some senior officials have told me I should whack them sooner, but most of my assignors (I work in 4 conferences) have indicated that they would prefer the way I do it, than become known as Mr. T.

I often comment on threads like this and I don't want to make it seem like I give out technicals for any and everything. However, from many camps, assigners, conferences and officials - literally from coast to coast - I have learned (still learning) similar philosophies concerning technical fouls. Coaches don't care about a robotic stop sign you throw in their face. In some cases, it just pisses them off more. They care about communication. It is like an emotional roller coaster and normal life - we aren't always happy, sad or pissed off. I think coaches appreciate it if they know they can talk to an official in an adult manner and they also appreciate knowing that an official will go to the edge and do anything at any time (technical foul). From the first basket of the season to the last second of the championship game, I think they want to know that they can talk to you and know you will give them what they earn.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

I tend to ignore coaches and not whack them. Some senior officials have told me I should whack them sooner, but most of my assignors (I work in 4 conferences) have indicated that they would prefer the way I do it, than become known as Mr. T.

You are mis-interpreting the situation. Coaches tend to learn what type of official you are and if you are the type to take a lot of grief, they will continue to give it to you, more and more each time as they try and find your limit, and if they never find it. They are going to continue to brutalize you. Coaches test your boundaries as well as kids. Understand the difference.

If I whack a coach for constant complaining, I am sending the message don't do it anymore in none of my games. The next time I have this coach he will remember me and not push it with me. This is what I want. They can also spread the word to all of there other friends that I don't take no sh!t. I think the thing you want to be aware of is the negative things that can ruin your game. Constant complaining coaches is one of those things that can make it a difficult night to work, even if nothing bad or controversial happens in the game. They are just bending your ear in a way that makes your job more stressful, and, like you've already stated, it causes the players to play worse, too. I'd say, we don't need to be more stressed than we already are. Look for these negative things that can make your games bad. Don't be afraid to penalize. Remember, good coaches are all about coaching there players.

I whacked a 10th grade coach yesterday without warning for constant complaining and informed him he must remain seated afterwards. I love that HS rule. The rest of this game and the next game, no more complaints from either coach, either bench. The way I like it. Now I can focus on calling the game, being consistent on both ends, etc....