The "And 1"

[jeffpea]

I don't think you can wait to see if the shot goes in or not before you decide to call a foul or not (too much time elapses). I think the better way to judge the severity of contact is whether the offensive player continues the shooting motion relatively "freely" - that is to say: did he play thru the contact or did the contact significantly restrict the shooting motion?

You can't assume the contact made the shooter miss the shot (after all plenty of shots are missed when there is no contact at all).

[Junker]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

I don't think you can wait to see if the shot goes in or not before you decide to call a foul or not (too much time elapses). I think the better way to judge the severity of contact is whether the offensive player continues the shooting motion relatively "freely" - that is to say: did he play thru the contact or did the contact significantly restrict the shooting motion?

You can't assume the contact made the shooter miss the shot (after all plenty of shots are missed when there is no contact at all).

It depends on how you look at advantage disadvantage. Almost every D1 official I've heard or talked to at camps say to hold the whistle and see if the ball goes down. I'm not sure that is right for a HS game, but that's they way I was taught. I know I'm very patient with shooting foul calls.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Junker

It depends on how you look at advantage disadvantage. Almost every D1 official I've heard or talked to at camps say to hold the whistle and see if the ball goes down. I'm not sure that is right for a HS game, but that's they way I was taught. I know I'm very patient with shooting foul calls.

IOW, anytime you're watching a college game and the official calls a foul on a made basket, he's screwed up. Is that correct?

[just another ref]

I'm having a hard time following all this. A strong player can follow through and finish a shot with two people hanging on his arm sometimes. A player can miss an easy shot while being baaaarely bumped. (or not bumped at all)
In a nutshell, I don't see that the foul and whether the shot is good or not have anything to do with each other.