Penalize Insanity 2 !

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Jmo, but I honestly feel that you just do what you think is gonna work best for that particular time in that particular game. There's no magic instructional manual that teaches you that you should do this in this particular situation- always. An identical act might mean a quiet warning in one game, but it also might mean an immediate "T" in another game with no warning. You just go with whatever feels right to you at that time. And then you don't second-guess yourself.

You know what I'm talking about, Rich....obviously

My only regrets have been NOT whacking someone who needs it. A good example (from football) is the coach last season who came onto the field to argue a spearing/disqualification call we made on one of his star players. I gave him a 15-yard USC penalty, but I should've thrown a second flag and tossed him a few seconds later. Didn't want to look like I had it out for him, though, so I didn't. He deserved it and I didn't pull the trigger when I should've.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

My only regrets have been NOT whacking someone who needs it. A good example (from football) is the coach last season who came onto the field to argue a spearing/disqualification call we made on one of his star players. I gave him a 15-yard USC penalty, but I should've thrown a second flag and tossed him a few seconds later. Didn't want to look like I had it out for him, though, so I didn't. He deserved it and I didn't pull the trigger when I should've.

What'd he do to earn the second USC? (Or, I should say, that should've gotten him the second USC.)

[tomegun]

I think these stories are good, but when it comes to high school players and coaches I would probably be on the side of a technical foul. I think I have called four so far or four in the last week. Which ever one is the lowest

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I think these stories are good, but when it comes to high school players and coaches I would probably be on the side of a technical foul. I think I have called four so far or four in the last week. Which ever one is the lowest

Why? Quick technicals rarely make the game better. I will let the players exhibit a little frustration as long as they drop it right away. It's the second shot or the persistence or the repeat offense that gets whacked.

I'm certainly not gunshy. Like I aid in the last post, I've lost a conference or two because I called USC fouls in football or technicals in basketball. Of course, that has as much to do with our assigning system as anything.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I will let the players exhibit a little frustration as long as they drop it right away. It's the second shot or the persistence or the repeat offense that gets whacked.

That was one of my seven. I called a foul, and the fouler didn't like the call. He didn't draw a T for shouting displeasure with the foul - he got T'd up because he kept screaming while running around and around.

[OHBBREF]

Rich & Mark - yes you had to be there - but if she had not expressed displeasure on the first and second fouls I might not have shot her down
In the fifteen dates I have worked this season JV, Varsity, Prep, and college, I have given two technicals and an ejection both of which you have read about here - they were a result of prior bad acts that had not been dealt with. Personally I do not plan to leave a mess for others to clean up.

If I am going to lose a conference for issuing a T I probably don't want to be working that conference anyway.
If you give them when they are earned your assignors and commissioners will (should) back you up! If not then why do you want to be in that conference where you are not supported.

[emtp]

Here's a thought, It's in the collage mechanic's book, we set the tempo and not the players or coaches. A well placed and called T on someone like this let everyone in the gym know what you will not tolerate. We have to be professional, so do they. Also, if you are new, you should have your response already committed to memory so when this happens that it dosen't catch you by surprise

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

What'd he do to earn the second USC? (Or, I should say, that should've gotten him the second USC.)

He stopped at me on the way to his injured player (the spearer) and laid into me for ejecting him (he worked so hard in the gym, blah, blah, blah). I warned him to go to his injured player, and he didn't, so he got flagged.

He kept in and didn't move towards his player, which annoyed me more than anything, to be honest. I told him to get off the field and he told me we'd never work there again. That's where I should've ended his night.

I lost that conference (it's only one game a season, easily replaced), but I blame that on the assignor who would rather stay on the good side of coaches and ADs rather than back the officials. Quite a shame, since he's an official himself. It had nothing to do with me not tossing him. It probably had more to do with me refusing to speak with the athletic director the following Monday, telling him my report to the state was all that needed to be said.