Larks,

IMHO you got it right. If the HM coach's remarks were directed more towards the floor vs. you or your partner, and weren't too off the wall, I might let it go....once. If he repeats it, then in the words of our commissioner, "we've got new arrangements".

Oh, that's good stuff.:D

Seconded!:)

Of course not. But the rules (at least ours) cover specifically this situation and say that you don't look at the severity of the contact, provided the players had the opportunity to get at the ball without causing illegal contact: if B2 had free space towards the ball, then the ensuing contact is incidental. So, just saying that A2 falls is not sufficient.

It's not a question of "sissy ball", I agree. But it's not an automatic foul either. If A2 was between B2 and the ball, then I'm inclined to call a foul on B2, but have to see the play to judge.

Yes, but....
In the original post, he specifically stated that B2 went through A2 to get to the ball, taking A2 out at the knees. I'm not picturing any play that could be described this way in which it is not a foul on B2.

I don't know if FIBA espouses this philosophy or not, perhaps they do in different words. In HS rules when two (or more) players are going for a loose ball, long pass, etc., you have to look at how advantageous each of those player's positions is. For example, if you have two opposing players coming from opposite directions to secure a loose ball and they collide, you may well have nothing as neither player was in a more advantageous position. In the OP, A2 is between B2 and the ball, and thus has a significantly more advantageous position. If B2 causes illegal contact that negates that advantage, that's a foul.

That is exactly what happened....

True, and don't forget that all contact in loose ball situations is not necessarily considered illegal, even though the contact may be severe.
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While I agree with you that a foul was committed in the situation described, I have to point out that this play has nothing to do with LGP and that even a player lying on the floor has a right to that space per that case play which I can never find when I need it. :)

This play is solely about one player causing illegal contact with another player.

According to NFHS, I think that's a 15 yard penalty.......No wait, that's football.

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