Lodged ball?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Don't take this the wrong way but how can someone be working the d league and/or wnba and NOT know what the ruling is on a wedged ball?

If you work D1 and the D-League and high school (and I know somebody who does this), you probably only work 10 HS games a year to be eligible for the playoffs.

The person who does that is clearly not spending as much time in the HS rulebook as in the other rulesets. Maybe they ought to give up HS in that situation, but that's a personal decision. I can see how it would be fairly easy to think that maybe this is one of those nit-picky rule differences.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

If you work D1 and the D-League and high school (and I know somebody who does this), you probably only work 10 HS games a year to be eligible for the playoffs.

I find this disagreeable. If you aren't going to work a full HS schedule, don't work the playoffs. Let the people who are dedicated to the game at the high school level work the high school level. You want to be a D1 ref, go be a D1 ref.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I find this disagreeable. If you aren't going to work a full HS schedule, don't work the playoffs. Let the people who are dedicated to the game at the high school level work the high school level.

If the state athletic association says that you have to work a minimum of 10 varsity games to be eligible for the tournament, and then these guys work 10 varsity games, why would we want to keep them out of a playoff tournament? Because they're not as good as the officials who worked 25-30 games? That's certainly not true. Why would you want to keep a very good college official from working if that official has met the state's minimum requirements?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

If the state athletic association says that you have to work a minimum of 10 varsity games to be eligible for the tournament, and then these guys work 10 varsity games, why would we want to keep them out of a playoff tournament?

errr....maybe because some of them don't know the HS rules well enough?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

errr....maybe because some of them don't know the HS rules well enough?

While I can understand your sentiments, how is this different than a ref who works 10 HS games because their day job has them traveling out-of-town half the season? Would you have the same attititude? The state says 10 is enough, it is none of our business why they only work the minimum. If the state wanted 3-games-per-week HS refs, they'd change the minimum to 20 or more.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While I can understand your sentiments, how is this different than a ref who works 10 HS games because their day job has them traveling out-of-town half the season? Would you have the same attititude? The state says 10 is enough, it is none of our business why they only work the minimum. If the state wanted 3-games-per-week HS refs, they'd change the minimum to 20 or more.

Camron, I think what the state actually wants is their HS officials to know the damn rules.

Scrapie seems to believe it's OK if you don't know the rules but look good.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Camron, I think what the state actually wants is their HS officials to know the damn rules.

Scrapie seems to believe it's OK if you don't know the rules but look good.

I said 2 things.

1) It's understandable if a college official who works few HS games forgets a rule difference.

2) It makes no sense to keep a college official who works few HS games out of the post-season, solely because he does the minimum number of games required to be eligible.

Those 2 statements do NOT imply that a college official who does not know the most basic NFHS rules should work the HS post-season. Or are you just busting my stones?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Camron, I think what the state actually wants is their HS officials to know the damn rules.

Scrapie seems to believe it's OK if you don't know the rules but look good.

Sorry, my reply (although entered as if in response to your post) was really a reply to Eastshire's assertions regarding working multiple levels and making the HS playoffs.

I'm not so sure that Srapper1 is really suggesting that...just offering a plausable explanation for the error.

Also, why would someone working only 10 games be a reason for not knowing the rules. I know guys that work 40+ games a season that don't know the rules. The number of games worked is at best only remotely connected to knowing the rules.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I find this disagreeable. If you aren't going to work a full HS schedule, don't work the playoffs. Let the people who are dedicated to the game at the high school level work the high school level. You want to be a D1 ref, go be a D1 ref.

Yeah, I agree.

To kick 2 pretty basic rules in 1 game is not good.

If you know you don't know the rule let your partner handle it.