Strange Night

[Old School]

Originally Posted by refnrev

Worked a boys JV game tonight. Partner was a newbie and had only had a couple of JV games. The guy calls everything... I mean everything!!! At one point we had 15 fouls and I'd called 3. At half the 3 guys for V are dressing in the room. They mention that he needs to let some things go.... several times. Second half, faster whistle. At a 60 TO I mosey over and mention that he might want to slow his whistle down and look for an advantage, etc. Must have made him nervous because his whistle speeds up.

Next time this happens, at half time show him Rule 4-27 in your rulebook that you should have with you if you're working high school games.

My bet is he was also calling in your area and watching the ball. So also mix in the conversation at half that he is working too hard. I believe he will be tired from making so many calls that by the end of the game, it will revert back to normal, in fact, you may have to reach into his area to get one or two because he's too tired. Guys that want to call everything, I just let them do all the work. They also get to take all the heat.

[bronco]

Originally Posted by Old School

Next time this happens, at half time show him Rule 4-27 in your rulebook that you should have with you if you're working high school games.

My bet is he was also calling in your area and watching the ball. So also mix in the conversation at half that he is working too hard. I believe he will be tired from making so many calls that by the end of the game, it will revert back to normal, in fact, you may have to reach into his area to get one or two because he's too tired. Guys that want to call everything, I just let them do all the work. They also get to take all the heat.

So you should have only one ref making calls at the start of the game, and the other ref make all the calls at the end of the game because the first ref is tired? So does that mean that you take the heat at the end of the game because you're reaching out of your area?

what does rule 4-27 say verbatim?

[Adam]

Nevada, what's the over/under on this thread getting closed?

[bronco]

I won't post in it anymore, I just couldn't resist.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nevada, what's the over/under on this thread getting closed?

Sorry Nevada to jump in. But, I'm going to say since nOld School jumped in, I'd say it's 6 pages.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sorry Nevada to jump in. But, I'm going to say since nOld School jumped in, I'd say it's 6 pages.

I can close it a lot faster than that, I guess, judging from an earlier thread that doesn't even exist anymore!. I'll just put in a ... and that should do the trick!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I can close it a lot faster than that, I guess, judging from an earlier thread that doesn't even exist anymore!. I'll just put in a ... and that should do the trick!!

Yeah, that thread disappeared real quick like.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yeah, that thread disappeared real quick like.

What did I miss?

[LarryS]

I am by no means an old pro at this, but earlier this year I called with a partner who was taking the floor for the 3rd time. His whistle was fast, he called almost everything and I could see the coached were getting frustrated with him during the second quarter.

I took the approach of try to keep myself in a position so that I was at T on the bench side as much as possible. By doing this I was able to keep the coaches a little calm. When they complained about one of his calls, I could say something like "Coach, I didn't see the play but I'll ask him what he saw" or "I saw it in my peripheral and he got it right" or "We'll discuss it when we get a chance". I never hung him out to dry, but by saying something occassionally they stayed fairly calm. That way, he and I could use the dead balls to talk about ADV/DISAD and having a patient whistle. A couple of times when I asked questions, he saw what I was getting at. Late in the third quarter I complimented him for a recent good no call and he said "I always like the official passing on that when I played". Man I jumped at that and suggested he be more patient and call what officials called when he played HS ball. It didn't work completely, but he got better towards the end of the game.

I figure, when working with a guy in that situation about all I can do is talk to him and keep the coaches off him as much as possible...let him work on one thing at a time.

[Junker]

If I'm working with someone new and they have 9 more calls than I do, you can bet we are going to discuss it as soon as possible. You have to be consistant with your partner. If I'm the more experienced guy, I'm not going to change they way I call a game to fit my partner. I'm going to try to get them to see the game a little differently. I'd even go as far as giving them specifics of something they could lay off. Nobody, coaches, and players included, wants to me out there that long.