Five second count on a drive
We had an interesting discussion in our association meeting last night about the five second closely guarded count. Imagine that a dribbler gets head and shoulders past his defender on a drive to the basket only to be picked up by a secondary defender who was already within six feet (so at least one defender was continuously within six feet the whole time). Would you continue your count? If so, why? If not, why not? Would it make any difference to you if it were near the basket or 40 feet away?
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From the RULING in casebook play 9.10.1SitB- "There is no requirement for the defensive player to remain the same during the count <b>as long as A1 is closely guarded throughout</b>". It's a violation anywhere on the court. The dribbler only got head and shoulders past one defender, not both of them. If the other defender was within 6 feet, the count simply continues. |
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It's a violation anywhere in the <b>frontcourt</b>, except for maybe Wimmen's basketball of which I know nuthin' about. |
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Wait, am i reading this correctly?
A1 dribbling around can guarded by B1, B2, and B3 each individually so long as one of them is always within six feet and the closely guarded count continues and does not restart with each change of defender??? Is the rule the same in NCAA and NCAA-W? |
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In NCAA it must be the same defender -- when there's a switch, the count starts over. |
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I know I'll probably be beheaded for saying this, but you'd better check around in your area before you call this. I know what the strict letter of the law says, and I'm not saying that JR is incorrect in his interp. But I also know that some rules are called with local variations that directly contradict the book, and whether or not I or anyone else approve of this, that's the way it's done. I'd check with a local interpreter before i called this in any game.
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In NCAA-W there is no closely guarded count while A1 is dribbling, only while she is holding the ball. The count happens anywhere on the court, not just in the frontcourt. |
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Okay, well I had to do that since Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy has yet to be replaced. No, not at all. Howard is a by the book kinda guy -- except for 3 seconds. But my point is exactly that in areas where there is a strong tradition of how to interpret things, it's best to go by that tradition, just like we use Howard's 3 second rule here, rather than the legality of the book. |
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