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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 09:40am
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Would you have granted A1 a TO if s/he had requested it during the "scoop?"
Never thought about it like that, good point. I don't think I would have granted a TO.

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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 12:22pm
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I always thought that when there was no team control, team control was then established when a player establishes player control, which is defined as holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. Tapping is not holding, scooping (IMO) is holding, pushing a ball downward to the court to start a dribble is dribbling.

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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 01:04pm
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I always thought that when there was no team control, team control was then established when a player establishes player control, which is defined as holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. Tapping is not holding, scooping (IMO) is holding, pushing a ball downward to the court to start a dribble is dribbling.

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I don't agree that a scoop is necessarily equal to holding the ball. If the player's hand froze in mid-air, would the ball stay or drop. If it is fairly short, I could see it as akin to pushing the ball...not unlike a dribble, but not a dribble. If the scoop is large, I could see it as holding the ball.
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