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I would rip off the arm that you signalled the 2 with and then I would club you over the head with the wet end, followed by ripping off your flattened head and crapping down your neck. Iow, I beg to differ. Which also begs the obvious follow-up question..... What would you do if I changed your changed call back to a 3, without conferring with you also, because I was 110% positive that I had it right all along? |
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Um, have you read NFHS rule 2-6 lately? You'd change an OOB call that your partner made on his line without discussing it with him first? I'd smack you sillier too if you ever tried that....and I know where you live.:eek: |
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But I'm suggesting that when it's a blown 2pt/3pt call, that we don't confer. Since I know you blew it, I'll just tell the table it's a 2 and we move on. He hates that. So when I work with him, I won't do it. But it's what we do around here. |
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Either the shooter's foot was on the line or it wasn't. It's black and white, no uncertainty. The rule is clear, either he's on or within the line or he's not. If you come to me to ask "did you see his foot on the line?" what am I going to say? "Of course I did but I'm giving him 3 anyways". Or maybe "No I didn't, and neither did you, you lying sack of sh1t." No need to confer, just fix it and move on. This differs when you come to me to give help on an OOB. "Did you see the ball tip off white's hand?" "Yes I did. Did you then see the ball tip off blue's knee right after that?" There's far less certainty. BTW Chuck, on a pass/crash I prefer to let the person who's primary it is stay with the crash and the off-official go with the pass. |
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Helluva mechanic....... |
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Or is that what you said? |
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Don't worry, Grumpy. We won't do it that way when we work together. |
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The other outside official has a clear view and sees that it was obviously missed. We trust each other and help out in that case. No discussion necessary. Quick whistle and signal the correct number of points. We got it right and we move on. |
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We discuss it at pregame and bilaterally or trilaterally decide that's the way we're doing it. |
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I certainly agree with the highlighted statements. But....where does it say that if I'm 110% sure that the shooter's foot wasn't on the line and the call was in <b>my</b> primary, that you can just go ahead and over-rule me and say the foot was on the line? If anybody ever tried to pre-game that one with me, I'd tell 'em to go find another partner. Homey don't play dat game! |
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Chuck, I agree with you. I'm not sure how it is where he lives, but where I live it's the same as where you live. (Huh?) There is no discussion on a 3 pt. vs. 2-pt. shot - if my partner sees something that I didn't and changes my call, I will either thank them later, or I'll do the arm-beating, bloody-stump thing. But it will be a very rare occurance, and will most likely happen close to those "gray areas" of coverage. If I'm at C watching a shot from the corner, and my partner at L changes my call, I will do JR's suggestion, even if my partner was right, because they were looking well out of their area. However, I will disagree with you and Dan slightly on the OOB call - I tell my partners to <B>not</B> ask me a question, but to come up and give me information. Don't ask me if I happened to see the ball go off white's noggin', because if I did I wouldn't be giving the ball back to white on the throw-in, now would I? Come and tell me the ball bounced off white's head, and I will be the one to decide to change my call, or keep it the same because I saw it bounced off blue's foot after it hit white's head. However, if I do happen to work with old farts with way more experience than me, I will do it their way as well. That's what pre-games are for, right? |
JR is never going to agree with Dan and me on this. How do I know? B/c we already hashed it to death here: http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=15859
I'm going to excuse myself from this thread now. . . |
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