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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 12:23pm
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I just heard this recap:
  • Seconds left in GJV last night.
  • Home dribbling ball and Visiting coach requested and was granted a time-out. Home coach expressed some concern to the officials.
  • My assumption is, official(s) got rattled, because the Visitors got the throw-in and scored the winning basket.
  • Must have been a good play !
I imagine the Home coach is still restless.
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 12:33pm
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Wrong team gets the TO, then the wrong team gets the ball. Ouch.
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 12:55pm
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I was at home last night

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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 02:14pm
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Ahhhhh.....sounds like a case for the President of Oklahoma U.
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 02:15pm
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My variation on that is: Ball Goes Out of bounds...Team A to get throw in....Team B calls time out. To resume play, we give Team B the ball. I guess cause they called time out.

One of my very first games. Now, I always, before granting the time out, find my partner(s), yell to them who is getting the ball and where the spot is. It doesn't decrease the chance of my going brain dead, but hopefully all of us won't go brain dead at the same time.
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Old Wed Sep 20, 2006, 02:43pm
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And before someone asks, these are NOT correctable errors. They are official's mistakes, and as rainmaker says we must live with them in ignominy!
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And before someone asks, these are NOT correctable errors. They are official's mistakes, and as rainmaker says we must live with them in ignominy!
Actually what I said was that we have to bear the ignominy and shame. It's not the quote I wanted to be remembered for, but, oh well.

These errors aren't correctable, as defined in 2.10, but giving the ball to the wrong team is fixable up until the ball is legally touched in-bounds. After that, it's too late.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 01:30am
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Actually what I said was that we have to bear the ignominy and shame. It's not the quote I wanted to be remembered for, but, oh well.

These errors aren't correctable, as defined in 2.10, but giving the ball to the wrong team is fixable up until the ball is legally touched in-bounds. After that, it's too late.
Even if it is illegally touched, it is too late to fix it. If it is illegally touched, you have a new violation the subsequent throwin will be applied accordingly.

Even if there is a foul before the throwin has been touched at all, the foul stands and the penalty for it is applied.

Basically, it is fixable if it is recognized before the throwin ends...legally or not.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 09:15am
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This can't be true. I heard no reports of 7.0 or greater on the Richter scale in Michigan yesterday due to a coach's head exploding.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 09:46am
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This can't be true. I heard no reports of 7.0 or greater on the Richter scale in Michigan yesterday due to a coach's head exploding.

Nope. It exploded 8 years ago when the same coach [Home] told me that I was the worst official he had seen in 20 years.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 09:52am
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Nope. It exploded 8 years ago when the same coach [Home] told me that I was the worst official he had seen in 20 years.
Sorry, you can't be.

I have it on good authority that I am the worst offical ever.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 10:17am
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Sorry, you can't be.

I have it on good authority that I am the worst offical ever.
And I'm the good authority.......

It's true, it's true.....
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Even if it is illegally touched, it is too late to fix it. If it is illegally touched, you have a new violation the subsequent throwin will be applied accordingly.

Even if there is a foul before the throwin has been touched at all, the foul stands and the penalty for it is applied.

Basically, it is fixable if it is recognized before the throwin ends...legally or not.
Thanks Camron. I always forget to account for the little glitches that can screw up my generalities. If the ball is illegally touched, basically the mistake doesn't really matter any more, anyway, so I didn't think of that. Also the point about the foul is good. Fouls during a throw-in are so rare, I forgot about the possibility. So the wording should be, "...fixable until the throw-in ends." Got it.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 01:19pm
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I just heard this recap:
  • Seconds left in GJV last night.
  • Home dribbling ball and Visiting coach requested and was granted a time-out. Home coach expressed some concern to the officials.
  • My assumption is, official(s) got rattled, because the Visitors got the throw-in and scored the winning basket.
  • Must have been a good play !
I imagine the Home coach is still restless.
mick
Mick,
Bullet point three doesn't specifically say which team attempted the throw-in. Are you saying the visitors stole the ball on the throw-in play to win the game or are you saying the the officials let the visitors attempted the throw- in?

The difference in my eyes is a minor mistake versus a major mistake.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 02:24pm
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Originally Posted by mick
I just heard this recap:
  • Seconds left in GJV last night.
  • Home dribbling ball and Visiting coach requested and was granted a time-out. Home coach expressed some concern to the officials.
  • My assumption is, official(s) got rattled, because the Visitors got the throw-in and scored the winning basket.
  • Must have been a good play !
I imagine the Home coach is still restless.
mick



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Mick,
Bullet point three doesn't specifically say which team attempted the throw-in. Are you saying the visitors stole the ball on the throw-in play to win the game or are you saying the the officials let the visitors attempted the throw- in?

The difference in my eyes is a minor mistake versus a major mistake.
Yeah, SamIAm,
It was the major goof.
The visitors were given the ball and the throw-in, eventhough the Home team should have had it.
mick
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