2nd-hand sitch

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Actually what I said was that we have to bear the ignominy and shame. It's not the quote I wanted to be remembered for, but, oh well.

These errors aren't correctable, as defined in 2.10, but giving the ball to the wrong team is fixable up until the ball is legally touched in-bounds. After that, it's too late.

Even if it is illegally touched, it is too late to fix it. If it is illegally touched, you have a new violation the subsequent throwin will be applied accordingly.

Even if there is a foul before the throwin has been touched at all, the foul stands and the penalty for it is applied.

Basically, it is fixable if it is recognized before the throwin ends...legally or not.

[Jimgolf]

This can't be true. I heard no reports of 7.0 or greater on the Richter scale in Michigan yesterday due to a coach's head exploding.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

This can't be true. I heard no reports of 7.0 or greater on the Richter scale in Michigan yesterday due to a coach's head exploding.

Nope. It exploded 8 years ago when the same coach [Home] told me that I was the worst official he had seen in 20 years.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mick

Nope. It exploded 8 years ago when the same coach [Home] told me that I was the worst official he had seen in 20 years.

Sorry, you can't be.

I have it on good authority that I am the worst offical ever.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Sorry, you can't be.

I have it on good authority that I am the worst offical ever.

And I'm the good authority.......

It's true, it's true.....

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And I'm the good authority.......

It's true, it's true.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Die, BananaBoy, die!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mick

Nope. It exploded 8 years ago when the same coach [Home] told me that I was the worst official he had seen in 20 years.

There's actually a Davism for something like this. Tell the coach "that's impossible". When he asks why, reply "because the odds are too great that the worst official and the worst coach could be at the same game."

[mick]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

There's actually a Davism for something like this. Tell the coach "that's impossible". When he asks why, reply "because the odds are too great that the worst official and the worst coach could be at the same game."

Yeah, yeah.
You big city boys can git away with stuff.

[kiwiref]

You just have to make another error to correct the first one. Not a great solution, but an equitable one.
Let's face it, anyone making a mistake of that magnitude will face some tough criticism. IMO, if the choice is between being criticized for making a bad decision that affected the game, versus being criticised for making two bad decisions but with a much, much less impact on the game, I would go with the second option.
It is not clear from the original post if the refs realised the mistake at any stage.
And as a side note, wonder what score did this crew get on their state certification test.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by kiwiref

You just have to make another error to correct the first one. Not a great solution, but an equitable one.
Let's face it, anyone making a mistake of that magnitude will face some tough criticism. IMO, if the choice is between being criticized for making a bad decision that affected the game, versus being criticised for making two bad decisions but with a much, much less impact on the game, I would go with the second option.
It is not clear from the original post if the refs realised the mistake at any stage.
And as a side note, wonder what score did this crew get on their state certification test.

Doing what you suggest is just compounding the original bad mistake, kiwi. Two screw-ups ain't better than one. Doing what you suggest is just wrong.....and indefensible also.

Btw, how can it be "equitable" if you're deliberately screwing one team? The first one was simply a mistake. The second one wouldn't be.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even if it is illegally touched, it is too late to fix it. If it is illegally touched, you have a new violation the subsequent throwin will be applied accordingly.

Even if there is a foul before the throwin has been touched at all, the foul stands and the penalty for it is applied.

Basically, it is fixable if it is recognized before the throwin ends...legally or not.

Thanks Camron. I always forget to account for the little glitches that can screw up my generalities. If the ball is illegally touched, basically the mistake doesn't really matter any more, anyway, so I didn't think of that. Also the point about the foul is good. Fouls during a throw-in are so rare, I forgot about the possibility. So the wording should be, "...fixable until the throw-in ends." Got it.