2 T's on me?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, that's interesting.

Does that also mean that Chuck's opinion should have more credibility than yours now if Chuck does some D1 games this year, which is a real possibility? And Tony's opinion should have more credibility than yours because he's worked state finals in 2 sports and you haven't? And Zeke's opinion is always right...say...compared to Mick or BobJ's opinion?

That is up to the people that read this board. I cannot speak for others that read this board. I would say if Chuck did get there and stayed there, it would add a lot to his how I view him. Partly because I have some idea of what it takes to get there. If you are a D1 official, someone is putting their job on the line to hire you. It is not like supervisors just put someone in place that has not earned some trust and proven on some level they can do the job.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And how do you know that some of the other opinion-givers on this forum aren't D1 officials also if they don't broadcast their resumes?

So do you want a guy that works D1 only to talk about the JH or JV games they work? I also did not read where Zeke said, "I am a D1 official and you are not." I think he stated he works that level and a certain technique seems to work for him. I have heard guys broadcast they worked State Finals and I do not see the same point of view made when that has taken place (and it happens much more often). At least a D1 official beat about thousands of officials for that one slot. He has my respect even if I would feel that he was not a better official than others here.

Peace

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is up to the people that read this board. I cannot speak for others that read this board. I would say if Chuck did get there and stayed there, it would add a lot to his how I view him. Partly because I have some idea of what it takes to get there. If you are a D1 official, someone is putting their job on the line to hire you. It is not like supervisors just put someone in place that has not earned some trust and proven on some level they can do the job.



So do you want a guy that works D1 only to talk about the JH or JV games they work? I also did not read where Zeke said, "I am a D1 official and you are not." I think he stated he works that level and a certain technique seems to work for him. I have heard guys broadcast they worked State Finals and I do not see the same point of view made when that has taken place (and it happens much more often). At least a D1 official beat about thousands of officials for that one slot. He has my respect even if I would feel that he was not a better official than others here.

Peace

Let's not forget that some referees get/don't get D1 contracts/opportunities because of where they live. I have personally had this very conversation with a D1 assignor. There are some officials that aren't particularly great that get jobs and others that are better that don't for this reason alone. I personally have also worked with referees who have strong ties to assignors that get jobs because they are loyal to that person, not because they are the best referee available. I don't necessarily think that this makes a referee more credible.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Let's not forget that some referees get/don't get D1 contracts/opportunities because of where they live. I have personally had this very conversation with a D1 assignor. There are some officials that aren't particularly great that get jobs and others that are better that don't for this reason alone. I personally have also worked with referees who have strong ties to assignors that get jobs because they are loyal to that person, not because they are the best referee available. I don't necessarily think that this makes a referee more credible.

There are a lot of factors as to why people do not get a shot at the Division 1 level. Even with those small factors, it is not like the average official is going to get that kind of opportunity.

You show me someone that is hired at any job, I will show you someone who is just as qualified but did not get the same opportunity. It is a myth in this world that the "most qualified" get all the jobs. That is not true in any job in or outside of officiating. And when you get a D1 official that has finally made it, they are scrutinized on a level most of us would not be able to handle.

I know when I work my games; no one is telling me what I did right or wrong, every trip up and down the floor. I might only hear about something when I mess up or if a coach complains. It is a completely different level of scrutiny that does that and many of the best officials would not be able to handle that.

Peace

[REFVA]

I'm going to open myself for some criticism, but here we go. Everyone on this thread brings value. Yes some people due judge what others may say or comments they make. Some of us may come across as they are better than others. I think we are dealing with ego and the way we may respond may be interpreted differently than what was meant. (I know Chuck is going to correct my grammar that's ok) Just like the rules as much as some are clear cut some are left to interpretation and can be interpreted differently. We all bring a lot of experience (except me only 6 years) and we all won't agree with each other. I found this thread to be a place where I can share or learn something without being judged. I bet more people would possible share but are afraid to because someone is going to jump (over the back ) get joke. So there!!!!