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Old Thu Aug 24, 2006, 08:36pm
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This site may be helpful.VIRGINIA PREPS.COM. Cick on message boards on the left. Scroll down to ASK-REF BASKETBALL. There should be a link to ZEBRAS. INC.I thoght it has some cool links there
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Old Thu Aug 24, 2006, 11:10pm
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And smile. This is fun Welcome to the brotherhood.
...uhhhh.... Let's try, "Welcome to the fellowship". There's still a sort of gender angle in "fellow" but it's not quite as glaring as "brother".

Euby -- I recommend tape. You learn a lot in a hurry from watching yourself on tape. It's humbling, so brace yourself. but it's worth the squirming to really see what others see. Appearance is about half the battle. If you look athletic, and confident, you can get away with a lot. Tape puts you ahead of the percentages by getting your appearance under control in a hurry.

And what everyone else says is also important, Have Fun!!
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 02:53am
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...uhhhh.... Let's try, "Welcome to the fellowship". There's still a sort of gender angle in "fellow" but it's not quite as glaring as "brother".
Do you take weight-lifting so that you're strong enough to carry that humongous chip on your shoulder around?

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 01:17pm
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...uhhhh.... Let's try, "Welcome to the fellowship". There's still a sort of gender angle in "fellow" but it's not quite as glaring as "brother".
I'll tell you what. When the ratio of male basketball officials to female gets above, oh let's say 100:1, then maybe you'll have a legitimate case to make and I'll worry more about it.

Until then, I'm with Brother Bill: We few. We happy few. We band of brothers.

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 01:52pm
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I'll tell you what. When the ratio of male basketball officials to female gets above, oh let's say 100:1, then maybe you'll have a legitimate case to make and I'll worry more about it.

Until then, I'm with Brother Bill: We few. We happy few. We band of brothers.

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This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 02:43pm
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Amen, Brother. Nobody says it quite like Bill.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 03:35pm
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Amen, Brother. Nobody says it quite like Bill.
How 'bout Brother Bob?

The old cave-men knew best
Grab girlies by the hair
And though they may protest
Drag them into your lair
So young men seeking mates
Take my tip, if rejected
A modern maid just hates
To be respected.


It's true, it's true.....
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 03:52pm
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How 'bout Brother Bob?

The old cave-men knew best
Grab girlies by the hair
And though they may protest
Drag them into your lair
So young men seeking mates
Take my tip, if rejected
A modern maid just hates
To be respected.


It's true, it's true.....
There was an old hermit named Dave...

(btw, good find: Robert Service)
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 04:12pm
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There was an old hermit named Dave...

(btw, good find: Robert Service)
Ol' Bob musta know the Chuckster too....

Being a shorty, as you see
A bare five footer
The why my wife is true to me
Is my six shooter
For every time a guy goes by
Who looks like a lover
I polish it to catch his eye
And spin it over

He notes it's notches as I say
Believe me, brother
If Junie ever goes astray
There'll be another
A husband has to have a gun
And guts to pull it
Few fellows think a bit of fun
Is worth a bullet.

For June would sit on any knee
If it wore pants
Yet she is faithful unto me
As gossip grants
And though I know some six foot guy
Would better suit her
Her virtue triumphs, thanks to my
Six shooter.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 04:25pm
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Ol' Bob musta know the Chuckster too....

Being a shorty, as you see
A bare five footer
The why my wife is true to me
Is my six shooter
For every time a guy goes by
Who looks like a lover
I polish it to catch his eye
And spin it over

He notes it's notches as I say
Believe me, brother
If Junie ever goes astray
There'll be another
A husband has to have a gun
And guts to pull it
Few fellows think a bit of fun
Is worth a bullet.

For June would sit on any knee
If it wore pants
Yet she is faithful unto me
As gossip grants
And though I know some six foot guy
Would better suit her
Her virtue triumphs, thanks to my
Six shooter.
Maybe...seems to me he knew his beloved Junie well too.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 07:47pm
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I'll tell you what. When the ratio of male basketball officials to female gets above, oh let's say 100:1, then maybe you'll have a legitimate case to make and I'll worry more about it.
Do you mean below 100:1? Then, we're already there, since nationwide the ratio of male to female basketball officials is about 10:1, and even lower in some localities.

JR, it's not a chip on the shoulder. It's an insistence that the reality of females in the fellowship be recognized. You'd never know it on this board, but there are lots and lots of female basketball officials, and the language needs to reflect that.

Now you guys can bait all you want to, if that makes you happy. I'm going to spend the weekend worrying about something more important than the fragility of the male ego.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 07:53pm
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Where I'm from (BAY AREA), many female officials..... 10 to 1 is still rather high... more like 6:1.

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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 08:31pm
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Now you guys can bait all you want to, if that makes you happy. I'm going to spend the weekend worrying about something more important than the fragility of the male ego.
And we'll promise not to concern ourselves with the fragile female ego. See, we're equal. You're fragile, I'm fragile, the whole damn place is a house of cards ready to collapse at the slightest breeze. Right?

I don't know about the rest of you, but in the circles I run in the ratio of male to female officials is much closer to 100:1 than it is to 10:1. In fact, I cannot remember the last time I worked a regular season game above the middle school level with a woman. And that's a shame, because believe it or not I really, really (really) like women. I have run into a few women doing the women's end of a men/women ncaa date...but we never shared the same game.

I'm not saying that because I'm a knuckle draggin' neo-whateverthefrigyoucallit...it's just the plain truth of the matter.

Anyways, I hope I didn't damage any fragile egos, and if I did...well, tough.
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Old Fri Aug 25, 2006, 08:57pm
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I just checked the numbers for you, Juulie.
There are 110 registered HS officials in my local area. Three of those are females.
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As a newbie what should be my primary focus be on... rules, mechanics, networking, conditioning?

The answer is "yes".
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