This was cool

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

I will take that as a yes.

Ron, the reason I made the comments in the first place is the fact the WNBA season is damn near over and this is probably one of the first times someone even mentioned anything about that league. Guys come here all the time complain they do not watch the NBA, but we always have knock down drag out debates over some play or situation that happens in a big NBA game every year and especially during the playoffs. I would have said the same thing if someone mentioned the MLS. Some things just are not on the sports radar.

Peace

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Ron, the reason I made the comments in the first place is the fact the WNBA season is damn near over and this is probably one of the first times someone even mentioned anything about that league. Guys come here all the time complain they do not watch the NBA, but we always have knock down drag out debates over some play or situation that happens in a big NBA game every year and especially during the playoffs. I would have said the same thing if someone mentioned the MLS. Some things just are not on the sports radar.

Peace

The only reason I watch the WNBA games is that I am a women's college official and I am watching the officials to see if I can pick-up something to improve my game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

The only reason I watch the WNBA games is that I am a women's college official and I am watching the officials to see if I can pick-up something to improve my game.

I work Men's college and there is not a whole lot I can learn from an NBA game about officiating college games. The WNBA and the Women's College officials are often the same people, so you might get something out of it. For those that are working HS and Men's college game, watching WNBA games I get very little out of it.

Peace

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I work Men's college and there is not a whole lot I can learn from an NBA game about officiating college games. The WNBA and the Women's College officials are often the same people, so you might get something out of it. For those that are working HS and Men's college game, watching WNBA games I get very little out of it.

Peace

I totally understand your view on this.

[CLH]

Geez, didn't mean to start an argument over how useful the WNBA is. I just thought the mic'd up deal was cool. Maybe if the NBA did this more, fans would have a better understanding of how the officials handle different situations, and may help show that they are there to improve the game, not just out to grind an axe or teach someone a lesson. Whatever happened to the cable show where Ronnie Nunn used to give rule interpretations for different plays from the week?

BTW and JMO, you can ALWAYS learn somthing from watching EVERY game, whether is, NBA, WNBA, NCAA or whatever, even if its how not to do somthing. If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

Just my humble opinion though, they're like noses, everyone has one.

CH

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by CLH

Geez, didn't mean to start an argument over how useful the WNBA is. I just thought the mic'd up deal was cool. Maybe if the NBA did this more, fans would have a better understanding of how the officials handle different situations, and may help show that they are there to improve the game, not just out to grind an axe or teach someone a lesson. Whatever happened to the cable show where Ronnie Nunn used to give rule interpretations for different plays from the week?

BTW and JMO, you can ALWAYS learn somthing from watching EVERY game, whether is, NBA, WNBA, NCAA or whatever, even if its how not to do somthing. If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

Just my humble opinion though, they're like noses, everyone has one.

CH

Actually, there are quite a few of us here who enjoy the WNBA. I generally don't get annoyed with Jeff, but I'd rather this thread would be about the game yesterday, and not about Jeff's well known views. Could you just ignore this thread, please, Jeff, like you do the games on TV, and let us discuss our little petty concerns by ourselves? Please?

[rainmaker]

Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate you showing us this amount of respect and courtesy.

Regarding the continuation call, it did seem a little weird. However, I really thought the announcers over-played the situation. Geez, one bad call. They harped, and harped, and harped, and harped on it for the rest of the game. I thought Ann Meyers was the women's games worst announcer of all time, but I've now "elevated" Doris Burke, and whoever that guy was that was with her to a new record score of lousy.

There were a number of other calls that might have seemed questionable but were actually very good, including a couple of PC calls, and one block/charge that were truly great. In all, I thought the game was very well officiated, although the level of play wasn't up to my expectations at all. I don't see how they can keep saying that Connecticut is so great, if that game was any indication!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Actually, there are quite a few of us here who enjoy the WNBA. I generally don't get annoyed with Jeff, but I'd rather this thread would be about the game yesterday, and not about Jeff's well known views. Could you just ignore this thread, please, Jeff, like you do the games on TV, and let us discuss our little petty concerns by ourselves? Please?

I am sure there are, but you do not talk about it. Juulie, put some more skin on and you might actually have a sense of humor about this topic.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CLH

If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

It doesn't do anything for me.

I'm not looking because I'm not interested.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by CLH

Geez, didn't mean to start an argument over how useful the WNBA is. I just thought the mic'd up deal was cool. Maybe if the NBA did this more, fans would have a better understanding of how the officials handle different situations, and may help show that they are there to improve the game, not just out to grind an axe or teach someone a lesson. Whatever happened to the cable show where Ronnie Nunn used to give rule interpretations for different plays from the week?

BTW and JMO, you can ALWAYS learn somthing from watching EVERY game, whether is, NBA, WNBA, NCAA or whatever, even if its how not to do somthing. If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

Just my humble opinion though, they're like noses, everyone has one.

CH

Ronnie Nunn stopped because the league mandated that they stop that. That is why they got rid of ask the ref on the NBRA website, but it is back now and it just contains questions about the life and what it is like to be an NBA official. I would also go out on a limb and say that when this mandate was handed down was a little before or right at the time eroe39 (Eli Roe) stopped posting. That and to add to it that almost everybody was questioning everything he said. I believe someone even questioned him on a NBA rules application (can't remember for sure). Oh and by the way I heard he either scored or almost scored a 100 on one of the nba exams this year. He is a big rules buff and from his post he seemed to know what he was talking about, just a little.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I would also go out on a limb and say that when this mandate was handed down was a little before or right at the time eroe39 (Eli Roe) stopped posting.

I think that limb would break. Eli's last post here was in May of '04. Ronnie's show was on the air after that, I'm pretty sure. That mandate might be an additional factor that would prevent his return, but I don't think that's why he decided to stop posting.

almost everybody was questioning everything he said. I believe someone even questioned him on a NBA rules application (can't remember for sure).

I think this is the reason he left the forum (I met him briefly at camp in summer '04). He got a pretty rough reception here, that's for sure. But not b/c of his NBA rule knowledge. It was b/c he and "tony" and Brent were perceived (by me, as well) as telling us to apply NBA philosophies and rules to NCAA and HS games.

After meeting Eli (again, very briefly), I'm truly sorry that we chased him away. I was genuinely happy for his advancement.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Ronnie Nunn stopped because the league mandated that they stop that.

They had Ronnie Nunn on NBA Insiders during the playoffs. When did they stop it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CLH

Geez, didn't mean to start an argument over how useful the WNBA is. I just thought the mic'd up deal was cool. Maybe if the NBA did this more, fans would have a better understanding of how the officials handle different situations, and may help show that they are there to improve the game, not just out to grind an axe or teach someone a lesson. Whatever happened to the cable show where Ronnie Nunn used to give rule interpretations for different plays from the week?

You did not start an argument. I made a joke and some people do not know how to take a joke unless they are making the joke themselves. Give it time and you will see someone will make a FIBA joke in the FIBA Championship thread.

Originally Posted by CLH

BTW and JMO, you can ALWAYS learn somthing from watching EVERY game, whether is, NBA, WNBA, NCAA or whatever, even if its how not to do somthing. If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

Just my humble opinion though, they're like noses, everyone has one.

CH

Also I disagree with this. If you watch the NBA, there are a lot of things when it comes to contact and violations that are not shared at the NCAA level. And if they do something totally different or have a different philosophy, you will get yourself into trouble trying to translate that to other levels. Notice how I did not even say the WNBA in that point of view? The NBA is seen as entertainment by many and not pure basketball.

Peace