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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 04:06pm
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free throw shots

One of the girls on my basketball team has a unique free throw warm up. when she is standing on the line she does almost a fake shot. she holds the ball at her chest and does a follow through check (not sure how else to describe it). she lets the ball roll off her hand and lets it hit the court picks it up and proceedes to shoot a free throw. is that legal. i guess what we are wondering is there any rules on what you can and can not do on the free throw line.

i dont know if that makes any sense to you, im not really sure how to describe it. if you get a chance could you let me know whats legal while on the line.
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 04:23pm
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I'd have her change it. Sounds like it could be mistaken as a fake. Without seeing it, it's hard to know for sure.
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Old Wed Aug 16, 2006, 04:59pm
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One of the girls on my basketball team has a unique free throw warm up. when she is standing on the line she does almost a fake shot. she holds the ball at her chest and does a follow through check (not sure how else to describe it). she lets the ball roll off her hand and lets it hit the court picks it up and proceedes to shoot a free throw. is that legal. i guess what we are wondering is there any rules on what you can and can not do on the free throw line.

i dont know if that makes any sense to you, im not really sure how to describe it. if you get a chance could you let me know whats legal while on the line.
You're taking your chances.....

NFHS rule 9-1-4---"The free thrower shall not fake a try..."

If the official deems it a faked try, you've got no argument at all if a violation is called.
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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 06:42am
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Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.
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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 10:54am
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Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.
Huh...in my opinion there is nothing wrong with having a pre-shot routine. This one sounds like it could cause a problem but that doesn't mean they should all be stopped.

I know when I am golfing I try to follow the same routine before each shot type, putt...chip...tee shot. It can help the person focus and calm them down. It works the same way in other sports. Anything you can do within the rules of the game to help you stay focused is a good thing. I even know several officials you always prepare for a game in exactly the same way...down to arriving at the site, how they pack and unpack their bag, the way the get dressed, etc.
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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 11:03am
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Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.
Not sure what TV has to do with this. I have never seen a pre-shot routine anything like this on or off TV. The purpose of the routine is to get the player in some kind of rhythm. This player probably took the routine too far and does not realize they might be doing something illegal. I would teach the kid to find another routine and move on.

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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 12:11pm
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Not sure what TV has to do with this. I have never seen a pre-shot routine anything like this on or off TV. The purpose of the routine is to get the player in some kind of rhythm. This player probably took the routine too far and does not realize they might be doing something illegal. I would teach the kid to find another routine and move on.

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NBA players are doing all sorts of routines before they shoot FT and kids are watching and trying to copy them. That is what I meant.
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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 12:19pm
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NBA players are doing all sorts of routines before they shoot FT and kids are watching and trying to copy them. That is what I meant.
Why are you so concerned with what happens on TV? I have never seen any routine that looked like a fake. Maybe you have seen this, but I have not. I could take it a step further and say I have never seen a fake on a FT either on TV or in person. The player likely came up with this routine on their own and it happens to be boarding on legality.

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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 08:09am
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True, but (iirc) there's also a case play to the effect that the defense must recognize a pre-shot routine and not have it considered to be a fake.

I agree that if the ball is raised above the head, and the wrist "flicks" forward, it's becoming dangerously close to a fake.
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Old Thu Aug 17, 2006, 09:26am
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True, but (iirc) there's also a case play to the effect that the defense must recognize a pre-shot routine and not have it considered to be a fake.

I agree that if the ball is raised above the head, and the wrist "flicks" forward, it's becoming dangerously close to a fake.
That's why I said that the FT shooter was taking a chance. Depending on the official, it could be ignored, warned or called.
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