Casebook vs. real life

[Mwanr1]

chuck: what would you have called? Would this be a false double foul? This situation is very similar to 4.19.9 Sit A in the casebook.

[ChuckElias]

I'm 99% sure that I would only have called the shooting foul as well. I only mentioned it b/c it's the first time I've actually seen the play happen exactly as it is in the casebook. Drive to the basket, obvious foul during the shot, and then obvious charge.

If you were to call it strictly by the book, then it would indeed be a false double foul. Assess both fouls and penalize them in the order in which they occured. A1 would shoot 2 FT's with no one on the lane, and then Team B would have a throw-in at the closest spot.

[Mark Dexter]

It does seem like a bit of a cop-out, but the easiest thing is probably to do what this crew did - just penalize the foul on A1.

Of course, if (for example) T called the shooting foul, then L (who is deaf and didn't hear the T's whistle) calls the player control, I think you have to have a false double foul.

[Jimgolf]

I'm having a hard time visualizing this play. How could B2 have legal guarding position on A1, if B1 was guarding A1? What am I missing?

Also, since A1 was fouled, isn't it possible the charge into B2 was caused by the contact? How would you call that?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

I'm having a hard time visualizing this play. How could B2 have legal guarding position on A1, if B1 was guarding A1? What am I missing?

Also, since A1 was fouled, isn't it possible the charge into B2 was caused by the contact? How would you call that?

LGP can be obtained by any defensive player, not just the 1 who happens to be guarding.

Usually that's the thinking, the foul on A1 caused the subsequent contact and is ignored.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

I'm having a hard time visualizing this play. How could B2 have legal guarding position on A1, if B1 was guarding A1? What am I missing?

Also, since A1 was fouled, isn't it possible the charge into B2 was caused by the contact? How would you call that?

If B1 whacked the shooter on the arm, LGP isn't relevant in any way re: that foul. And....whether B1's contact deflected A1 into B2 is another judgement call completely.