Stopping fanboys

[REFVA]

I would suggest that a little blurb and box checking screen be added to the member registration process. The person registering should clearly see something that says this is a site for officials or those interested in discussing officiating such as coaches, players, and parents seeking knowledge of the rules of the game. A little check the box which says: 1. I am an official, 2. I am a ..., etc. that the person has to check before registering would serve to discourage the fanboys.

But if they have a selection which will ask what association they officiate for or if they have a NASO or IAABO etc. memebership number that will limit the number of fanboys. I know that IAABO doesn't have a member # it does have a board # , but NASO does have a member #

Just my one cent...

[jkjenning]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Most officials I know will never come to a site like this.

Why? because it is an open forum?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jkjenning

Why? because it is an open forum?

No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating.

Peace

[jkjenning]

Originally posted by JRutledge
No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating.

I am sorry you are disgruntled, I will remember not to ask you questions of this kind.

[REFVA]

No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating.JRutledge

I hate to sound ingnorant, but what do you mean by the comment?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by REFVA

I hate to sound ingnorant, but what do you mean by the comment?

It is obvious you have to have things spelled out for you.

I do not know about you, but I cannot reference a single person on this board and not have a bunch of people say, "Who?" With all the D1 officials and umpires we have around where I live, if I were to talk about what someone said from here I would get laughed off most conversations or presentations I will give. No one knows or cares who most people are on this board. Most people I personally know in officiating never come to this board because they would rather listen to Tommy O'Neil and LaMar Simpson then some guy with a funny name and identity who they have never seen work or what their background is.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by REFVA

I hate to sound ingnorant, but what do you mean by the comment?

Ignore him. He has a history of telling everyone how they should be doing things and how things should be. Then when someone present the correct interpretation or makes a valid counter point or altnernate, he trys to divert your attention from the facts with claims like "you might get away with that there but around here..." or "you'll never move up doing that". Never mind that he's said that to guys who work very impressive schedules.


If that fails, he'll turn it into a socio-economic or racial issue or claim that someone would be offended if you said ---pick any random word--- and you couldn't possibly understand it because you're not him.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Ignore him. He has a history of telling everyone how they should be doing things and how things should be. Then when someone present the correct interpretation or makes a valid counter point or altnernate, he trys to divert your attention from the facts with claims like "you might get away with that there but around here..." or "you'll never move up doing that". Never mind that he's said that to guys who work very impressive schedules.

If that fails, he'll turn it into a socio-economic or racial issue or claim that someone would be offended if you said and you couldn't possibly understand it because you're not him.

Thank you for proving my original point with your well said post. Who the hell is Cameron to me or anyone else here? (A nobody)

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Ignore him. He has a history of telling everyone how they should be doing things and how things should be. Then when someone present the correct interpretation or makes a valid counter point or altnernate, he trys to divert your attention from the facts with claims like "you might get away with that there but around here..." or "you'll never move up doing that". Never mind that he's said that to guys who work very impressive schedules.


If that fails, he'll turn it into a socio-economic or racial issue or claim that someone would be offended if you said ---pick any random word--- and you couldn't possibly understand it because you're not him.

Ah, Don Quixote Rust is still tilting at windmills.....

Of course, since you are using your real name, Camron, everything that you say has to be true.

But....Camron, you did leave out "Every D1 and pro official in my area agrees with everything that I post and they also do everything exactly the way that I do".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jkjenning

I am sorry you are disgruntled, I will remember not to ask you questions of this kind.

Disgruntled?

Maybe you need to look up what the word "disgruntled" means.

I have always known my place on this board or any internet site. No one is going to judge me as an official by what I say here. I will ultimately be judged by what I do on the court and what I accomplish on the court. What I say here might be interesting and up for debate, but it what you do in the real world that counts.

I am also one of the very few that uses my real name and tell people where I live and where I officiate. I cannot name very many people that do either.

Peace

[REFVA]

I have always known my place on this board or any internet site. No one is going to judge me as an official by what I say here. I will ultimately be judged by what I do on the court and what I accomplish on the court. JRutledge

I hear/understand your comment by being judge on the court, yet you went ahead and judged all the officials on this board by stating in quotes"No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating. . How do you know? so they don't want to reveal who they are. Anyone who is fairly new has expressed in any post that I have read that they are new. I've been officiating for 6 year, I still consider myself new and yet I have done some high profile HS boys games. I am good enough to do D1/2/3 games but my fulltime profesion sometime stops me from doing so. You are no better than Fanboy by putting down any official on this thread.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by REFVA

I hear/understand your comment by being judge on the court, yet you went ahead and judged all the officials on this board by stating in quotes"No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating. . How do you know? so they don't want to reveal who they are. Anyone who is fairly new has expressed in any post that I have read that they are new. I've been officiating for 6 year, I still consider myself new and yet I have done some high profile HS boys games. I am good enough to do D1/2/3 games but my fulltime profesion sometime stops me from doing so. You are no better than Fanboy by putting down any official on this thread.

I think you are taking my comments out of context. I am talking about what we say and do on an internet site not what we have done outside of this board. I am also not talking about how people are perceived outside this or any internet board and what anyone has accomplished outside of this board. I also think I have the right to my opinion on this whether you agree with it or not.

I think you need to tone down the rhetoric and realize that everything you just talked about yourself did not include your real name, where you live or anyone that says you are capable to work D1 ball as you claim. You did not talk about what association you are a member of or any other personal information that we can verify what you just claimed.

I have been criticized up and down by people that come to these sites over the years I have been here (longer than 6 years BTW). Outside of this board I have had some very good officials (some of the best and most respected in my area) go out of their way to help me out based on things I have said in association meetings, what they have seen when I work games or based on what others that worked with me have said. I even received a D1 opportunity in another sport based on the recommendation of an official that worked with me in basketball. He took the word of other respected officials and put his reputation on the line.

The main point I am making here is there is an internet culture that does not translate to the real world. Once again, most people here do not use their real name (that applies to you) or any other evidence where someone can find you. I have been contacted several times by people that have read this board for help in getting those contacts because all my contact information is out there and I use my real name.

I am happy you have been working 6 years as an official and you think you are capable to work some D1, but that was not the point of my comments. Remember, you said you are capable to work D1, there is no one else making that claim about you. See what I mean. My last point is the fact that you only have 13 posts to your name so far, some would question your credibility based on that fact alone. I do not care how many posts you have, the more posts you have does not make you a better official or bring more light to any of your argument on any subject. Give it time and someone will probably challenge you based on the number of posts or how long you have been here under the right circumstances.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

Ask them to select the color of the cover page of the rule book for that year. Even if this selection were to mean absolutely nothing (i.e., ANY selection would go through), some may just say,, "screw it" and not register.

[REFVA]

Thanks ZebraMan,

My expereince has always been very good on this thread.
We all have difference of opinion, that's what makes this game tick. We learn from experience good or bad..

[RookieDude]

No one here has much credibility in their world of officiating.JRutledge


I hate to sound ingnorant, but what do you mean by the comment?

REFVA...I think JRut was saying that "no one here has much credibility in their (meaning his associates as THEIR...not any of us) world of officiating."

He could have said, "In my associates eyes, no one here has any credibility...because my associates simply have not seen anyone here work a game."

I don't think even JRut is silly enough to make a blanket statement that NO ONE on this board has any credibility in their area.

P.S. John Wayne didn't use his real name either.