WARNING!! Annual Off-Topic Baseball Thread. Esteemed Members BEWARE!!

[mick]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Carlos Delgado had 5 RBIs last night, giving him 9 for the LCS. That ties him for the Mets' team record for most RBIs in an entire series. And there are still at least 2 more games to go!

Or it ties the Cardinals with the most inept pitching in a Met's LCS ?

[M&M Guy]

This one completly slipped by me, untill I read about it today - did you see Steve Lyons was fired by Fox for his "comments about Lou Pinella's heritage" after game 3 of the ALCS? I wondered what eggregious comments I missed; maybe I was by the fridge getting another brownpop, or maybe I was taking (leaving?...depositing?...) a dump? Anyway, from CBS Sportsline.com:

"In the second inning of Friday's game between Detroit and Oakland, Piniella talked about the success light-hitting A's infielder Marco Scutaro had in the first round of the playoffs. Piniella said that slugger Frank Thomas and Eric Chavez needed to contribute, comparing Scutaro's production to finding a "wallet on Friday" and hoping it happened again the next week.

Later, Piniella said the A's needed Thomas to get "en fuego" -- hot in Spanish -- because he was currently "frio" -- or cold. After Brennaman praised Piniella for being bilingual, Lyons spoke up.

Lyons said that Piniella was "hablaing Espanol" -- butchering the conjugation for the word "to speak" -- and added, "I still can't find my wallet."

"I don't understand him, and I don't want to sit too close to him now," Lyons continued.

Fox executives told Lyons after the game he had been fired."

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

This one completly slipped by me, untill I read about it today - did you see Steve Lyons was fired by Fox for his "comments about Lou Pinella's heritage" after game 3 of the ALCS? I wondered what eggregious comments I missed; maybe I was by the fridge getting another brownpop, or maybe I was taking (leaving?...depositing?...) a dump? Anyway, from CBS Sportsline.com:

"In the second inning of Friday's game between Detroit and Oakland, Piniella talked about the success light-hitting A's infielder Marco Scutaro had in the first round of the playoffs. Piniella said that slugger Frank Thomas and Eric Chavez needed to contribute, comparing Scutaro's production to finding a "wallet on Friday" and hoping it happened again the next week.

Later, Piniella said the A's needed Thomas to get "en fuego" -- hot in Spanish -- because he was currently "frio" -- or cold. After Brennaman praised Piniella for being bilingual, Lyons spoke up.

Lyons said that Piniella was "hablaing Espanol" -- butchering the conjugation for the word "to speak" -- and added, "I still can't find my wallet."

"I don't understand him, and I don't want to sit too close to him now," Lyons continued.

Fox executives told Lyons after the game he had been fired."

Yeah, these types of comments are pretty tame said among friends sitting in a bar or a locker room. Problem is they were said to not a handful of people but to a couple-dozen million people, no telling what type of response you would get back. Of course, it could also be that Piniella didn't like Lyons to begin with, took offense and told Fox either he goes or I go....

Anyways, pretty damn stupid thing to say on TV if you ask me.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Yeah, these types of comments are pretty tame said among friends sitting in a bar or a locker room. Problem is they were said to not a handful of people but to a couple-dozen million people, no telling what type of response you would get back. Of course, it could also be that Piniella didn't like Lyons to begin with, took offense and told Fox either he goes or I go....

Anyways, pretty damn stupid thing to say on TV if you ask me.

Maybe it was stupid. But it didn't strike me right away as an attack on Pinella's heritage. Maybe an attack (albeit good-naturedly) on his integrety. Of course, the article goes on to mention a couple of other Lyons' gaffes, so maybe this was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. (Oops - will I get PETA mad at me for saying that insensitive remark?...)

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Maybe it was stupid. But it didn't strike me right away as an attack on Pinella's heritage. Maybe an attack (albeit good-naturedly) on his integrety.

Yeah, that's how it sounds to me...but again you never know what will fly back at you when the PC crowd grabs ahold of these types of things. Fox did the smart thing in over-reacting IMO.

Of course, the article goes on to mention a couple of other Lyons' gaffes, so maybe this was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. (Oops - will I get PETA mad at me for saying that insensitive remark?...)

I'm organizing a mass demonstration even as we speak. What color do you want us to spray paint your SUV...choices are neon green or taxi cab yellow, our experience is either of these go well with flat-black windshield.

[tjones1]

Well I was at Game 4 of the NLCS. Great time, except for the out come! The Mets sure did poor it on us, though. Hopefully we can come back tonight. The winner of this game (game 5) is going to go to the WS.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Well I was at Game 4 of the NLCS. Great time, except for the out come! The Mets sure did poor it on us, though. Hopefully we can come back tonight. The winner of this game (game 5) is going to go to the WS.

Was it chilly last night?

Hey, if you can repeat your luck, I'll buy you tickets for night's game.

[M&M Guy]

And, the next Cubs manager:
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9732712

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I thought it would be interesting to have the hometown boy and former Cub Girardi give it a shot, but, then again, he wasn't a proven commodity. Piniella has proven it in the past, but he's also been fired a number of times as well.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

And, the next Cubs manager:
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9732712

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I thought it would be interesting to have the hometown boy and former Cub Girardi give it a shot, but, then again, he wasn't a proven commodity. Pinella has proven it in the past, but he's also been fired a number of times as well.

Pinella has proven also that he cannot win when he does not have talent. The problem with the Cubs has never been their manager. The problem with the Cubs is they put faith in players that do not come through. If any manager does not have their top two pitchers for multiple years, then of course you are going to struggle. Also it does not help that the acquisitions you have made do not come through either. Pinella might change some attitudes, but he is not going to win if they have the same pitching staff.

Peace