WARNING!! Annual Off-Topic Baseball Thread. Esteemed Members BEWARE!!

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Hmm, so, John Chaney gets ripped for sending one of his players out to do something to a player on the other team, but Ozzie gets a pass?

Yeah, I saw that on SportsCenter this morning. While I don't approve of throwing at people (and even less of ordering someone else to do it), I think this is a little different from the Chaney incident. First of all, it's a difference between pro's vs. collegiate athletes. Second, hitting someone in retaliation is a long-standing tradition in baseball, like it or not. Third, hitting a guy in the backside isn't going to injure the guy; unlike sending a big guy to knock down an opponent on the court.

I would not complain, however, if Ozzie were disciplined somehow.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I think this is a little different from the Chaney incident.

I may (grudgingly) agree with you on that point, but I'm not sure it's too far apart. Now, maybe it's still to early to say Ozzie's getting a pass, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. But hazing in college is also a long-standing tradition, so does that make it acceptable?

[Chess Ref]

This link might point out some of the more obvious differences betwwen grown men participating in a sport versus hazing.

http://www.stophazing.org/laws.html

I am thinking it is about context. When I hang with my adult male friends my language is a little different than when I am around young ladies that I coach in tennis.

Ozzies wanting something to be done is not the same as hazing or the injuring of a college student athlete.

Wasn't it Cheney who threatened to kill another coach ?