Hmm, yes, true! :D

At least the Yankee fans get on their team and manager for the right reasons. Cubs fans get on their manager when most of the players that he is given cannot play part of the season. Also the Yankee fans are used to winning. I expect a little arrogance and bravado.

This is why a lot of people hate Cubs fans. You are talking about attendance right now. Now Championships or actual success is not the factor, meaningless attendance numbers are what are key in the bigger picture. I went to a Cubs game about 4 years ago and I was amazed how little anyone was paying attention to the actual game. The only people watching the game and talking baseball were some Cards fans that were sitting behind me. Everyone one else was on the cell phone or concerned about the beer in their hand. The game was not the attraction, the ball park was.

The Cards have had bad years and the fans do not support a team that is terrible. They will support good baseball but not a team that is just bad. Usually the Cardinals are rather successful (considering they have been to about 4 World Series in my lifetime). Just because you show up to a game does not make you a good fan. I live in Chicago and I listen to local radio sports radio all the time and the last thing Cubs fans hold on to is what their attendance figures are. It just makes the point of all those that want a successful team. The Cubs were horrible and the stands were packed for a team that was out of the race since July.

Peace

God <b>Him</b>self couldn't have won with the pitching staff that the Cubs G.M. assembled. Hendry wasn't gonna fire himself though, so the Rev. Johnny B. got the boot. That's the way it works, unfortunately.

Baker will end up somewhere. He's a good baseball man.

Ok, here goes:


I know this fan didn't put the blame on Dusty because of that. I did put the blame on him when I saw players that <B>were</B> playing doing things like not hustling out ground balls, making bad decisions out in the field, being last or next to last in advancing runners and hitting w/runners in scoring position.
I think it's more of a NY attitude, rather than a Yankee fan attitude. According to a friend who watched a game at Yankee Stadium last year, he made the comment about how he wasn't sure he would feel comfortable about taking his daughter there to watch a game, just because of some of the things fans were yelling. Is that an issue everywhere? Perhaps, but he said it was more noticeable there.
Which people are you talking about? White Sox fans? Certainly not people outside the city of Chicago. White Sox fans have always had an inferiority complex when it comes to dealing with Cub fans.
Meaningless?? The number of people that go to a team's games is meaningless when it comes to determining a fan base? What criteria do you use to determine fan base?

How many games have you been to since that particular game? I've been to 5 baseball games this past season - 2 at Wrigley, 1 at the Cell, 1 in Cleveland, and 1 in St. Louis. I've noticed that at every game I've been to, so I'm not sure that's a "Wrigley" phenomenon as much as a society issue. There were any number of people talking on cell phones, talking about their job, telling their kids they had enough cotton candy, etc, etc. Heck, in Cleveland there was a group of guys that spent an inning and a half discussing whether Steve Perry from Journey was the greatest rock-n-roll singer ever. :eek: Can I extrapolate that Cleveland fans really are the dumber than Cub fans???
Again, I contend anyone can be a fair-weather fan. A real fan supports their team even when the team is horrible. Cub fans show up, buy merchandise, and support the team. How else do you measure how good a team's fans are than during the down years (yea, yea, centuries...)?

Yoohoo...Juulie...

And Chuck.

He's one of them left-wing, PC, libber, PETA, tree-hugging, shave-the-whales types too.

I didn't realize left-wingers liked clean-shaven whales.

Dogbert does.....

The <i>intelligentsia</i> will understand the reference.

Yeah, he's good to get fired another 3 or 4 more times before hangin' 'em up.

Nah, I don't fight for God. I'll let God take care of it Godself!

Dang it, I was hoping to listen in on a good hellfire and damnation speach.

I guess I'll have to watch baseball tonight instead.

btw, God tells me that's damn good of you.

I'm not good on hellfire and damnation speeches. But I do a great sermon on Why God is Not Like a Referee. It was a huge hit at my church a couple of years ago.

Little pun, there, Dan? cute, very cute...

What? God doesn't have a sense of humor?