UNC/MD Women's FF Game

[bradfordwilkins]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Bradford, remember that when the offensive player has the ball, time and distance are NOT a factor in determining whether the contact is a PC (unless the player gains control of the ball while airborne).

It was my impression that the Maryland player caught the ball in midair, landed, took a pivot step forward motion -- as noted the defender was in legal guarding position -- and gave the landing player ample room to change path. The defender moved into LGP AFTER the player became airborn, thus had she immediatley made contact upon landing, I have a block myself.

Just my humble and youthful observation -- any clarifcations are appreciated . Also, do the rules for HS and NCAA vary on the definition of player control stuff?

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins

It was my impression that the Maryland player caught the ball in midair, landed, took a pivot step forward motion -- as noted the defender was in legal guarding position -- and gave the landing player ample room to change path. The defender moved into LGP AFTER the player became airborn, thus had she immediatley made contact upon landing, I have a block myself.

Ok, let's clear this up a bit. There are several possible scenarios depending on when the defender got position and whether the ballhandler is airborne, so let's go through just a couple.

The easiest one is when the defensive player "steps in" and tries to establish LGP after the offensive player has left the floor. If the crash occurs before the ballhander returns to the floor, it's an easy block.

If the defender has LGP before the offensive player becomes airborne, then the defender does not have to give the offensive player the opportunity to land. So defensive LGP, then offense goes airborne, then CRASH = PC.

Also remember that once the ballhandler lands, time and distance are no longer a factor. So offense goes airborne and gains control, then defensive LGP, then ballhandler lands on one foot, then immediate CRASH = PC. Even tho, he didn't establish position until after the offensive player became airborne, it's still a PC. The ballhandler does not have to have the opportunity to avoid the contact. One toe down, and time/distance are no longer a factor.

do the rules for HS and NCAA vary on the definition of player control stuff?

There is only one difference. In NCAAM (but not in Women's), if airborne player releases a try and then charges into a defender, it is NOT a PC foul. The basket will count if it goes in, and the defender will shoot the bonus, if applicable.

[tomegun]

Chuck, if I remember correctly you third example is what happened. Good illustrations!

Bradford, what is a "pivot step forward motion?" I have never heard that.