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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 02:06am
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On a sidenote, what crew was that? Big 12 or SEC? Don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't too impressed. And by that, I mean it seemed like there wasn't any consistancy. Anyone else???
I noticed the same thing. They never all seemed to be on the same page. It' didn't look like they were all having their best night of the season.

With all the slo-mo replays the goal tend looked very, very, close. I know what it's like to have something your not expecting happen and miss it. I was working a camp last summer. We had a fast brake and I was T or C (3 person crew - can't remember which). A1 lays the ball in then B1 reaches from under the net and punches the ball out so it almost hits the ceiling. Both the other official and I were caught by surprise and the L ended up having to call it. We all saw it and knew what the right call was it was just a matter blowing the whistle.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 02:16am
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Not that the media knows what they are talking about, but I believe I heard SportsCenter give the officials credit for making the "correct" call.

It was certainly a tough call, live I thought it was correct. Slow it down, and it's certainly harder. But, got to give the benefit of the doubt to the official. He made the call and sold it and I'll buy into his call.

Great game!
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 08:58am
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Not that the media knows what they are talking about, but I believe I heard SportsCenter give the officials credit for making the "correct" call.

It was certainly a tough call, live I thought it was correct. Slow it down, and it's certainly harder. But, got to give the benefit of the doubt to the official. He made the call and sold it and I'll buy into his call.

Great game!
I think you've got the wrong thread.

In this game there was a close goaltending that wasn't called.

Live I jumped out of my seat and screamed GT, it's just good for my roommates that I didn't have my whistle in my mouth. These are tough sometimes because you're not watching the ball.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2006, 07:28pm
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I started a new thread with a pole. You can read it here.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 09:31am
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Not that the media knows what they are talking about, but I believe I heard SportsCenter give the officials credit for making the "correct" call.

It was certainly a tough call, live I thought it was correct. Slow it down, and it's certainly harder. But, got to give the benefit of the doubt to the official. He made the call and sold it and I'll buy into his call.

Great game!
Ah, the benefits of TiVo. It was goaltending.

BTW, both the center AND the trail called it -- one replay showed the play from the baseline and you can see the trail also immediately signaling the goaltending.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 09:43am
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Ah, the benefits of TiVo. It was goaltending.

BTW, both the center AND the trail called it -- one replay showed the play from the baseline and you can see the trail also immediately signaling the goaltending.
I'm confused now. Are you guys talking about the NOT CALLED goaltending on Brandon Roy during the UCONN/Wash game or are you talking about the BC/Nova goaltending at the end of the game?
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 09:50am
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I'm confused now. Are you guys talking about the NOT CALLED goaltending on Brandon Roy during the UCONN/Wash game or are you talking about the BC/Nova goaltending at the end of the game?
Sorry. I saw both and mixed them up.

They were BOTH goaltending, one called, one not. I TiVoed both of them and the no call in UConn/U-Dub was clearly missed -- it was coming down when blocked. The announcers were right on top of it and for once they were right. Of course, that is one call most easily made from a chair on the sidelines.

The BC/Nova GT was a good call, nailed by both the T and the C.
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I thought it was GT, but I'm at home sitting on my couch. Anyone besides me think this game was a perfect example of one coach getting into the officials heads early and getting benefit of the calls late because of it? I'm really undecided about that, but that game is the first one in a really long time where I felt the officials did not do a very good job, and I'm thinking Calhoun had a lot to do with that.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 10:50am
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YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PLAYS!!!!!!!!!

This thread is about the GT that was not called in the UConn-Washington game.

It is not about the GT call that was correctly made in the Nove-BC game.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2006, 02:13pm
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Sorry. I saw both and mixed them up.

They were BOTH goaltending, one called, one not. I TiVoed both of them and the no call in UConn/U-Dub was clearly missed -- it was coming down when blocked. The announcers were right on top of it and for once they were right. Of course, that is one call most easily made from a chair on the sidelines.

The BC/Nova GT was a good call, nailed by both the T and the C.
My fault. I was talking about the BC/Nova game.... it was real late whenever I read the thread... sorry everyone.
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Even though it was very close to being GT in real time, I thought it was close enough that it was probably a good "no call". After seeing it replayed several times in slow motion I was convinced the shot was at the top of its arc and I did not see that it had started its downward tragectory. Afterwards, I thought it was a good play to let go...
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We had a fast brake and I was T or C (3 person crew - can't remember which). A1 lays the ball in then B1 reaches from under the net and punches the ball out so it almost hits the ceiling. Both the other official and I were caught by surprise and the L ended up having to call it. We all saw it and knew what the right call was it was just a matter blowing the whistle.
I had a similar situation like this happen in this year's post season. I was the Regional Championship and with about 2 or 3 seconds to go in the game the team losing at the time shoot a desperation shot and the defender goes up and swats the ball away above the rim and quite high. It took me a second to just realize what happen, but I made the call with about 1.7 to go on the clock (host team lost). I guess it was really obvious to a lot of people and I was told by someone associated with the host school who also is a basketball official told me right after the game it was the right call. I just know in my mind it seemed like it took several minutes before I made a decision. I was caught off guard but I am sure I made the right call. That was about as pressured a situation I was in and there were not millions of people on TV watching either. I also did not see many replays on my play to know if I did everything right or wrong either.

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We had a fast brake and I was T or C (3 person crew - can't remember which). A1 lays the ball in then B1 reaches from under the net and punches the ball out so it almost hits the ceiling. Both the other official and I were caught by surprise and the L ended up having to call it. We all saw it and knew what the right call was it was just a matter blowing the whistle.
I had a similar play, although it was not a transition play. A1 drives to the basket and is fouled by B1. A1 releases the ball and B2 blocks the ball while it's on the way down. I was Lead and called the initial foul. I stood there with my fist up, thinking "T's got the GT, right? Um, guess not. C will pick it up, I'm sure. Uh, no. Ok, then. . ." Tweet! I didn't like it, but had to get it.

After the game, the C and T both said what you said. They saw it, but got surprised and just didn't blow the whistle.
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