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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 05:03pm
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I am the trail, the ball is swung down into the corner opposite me. At the same time, my partner and I blow the whistle. I have an off-ball foul against the offense for hooking a defender and throwing him out of the lane. At the same time, my partner has a shooting foul against the defense. We talked about it and decided the offensive foul happened first. That's what we told the coaches anyway. In actuality, the whistles were simultaneous. I really don't know which foul occurred first.
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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 05:14pm
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Neither whistle takes precedence. If you get together and decide one foul occurred before the other, call the first and you ignore the second foul unless it was intentional or flagrant. If you decide they happened at the same time, then call both- as a simultaneous foul.
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If the shooting foul was after the ball was airborne, then the offensive foul happened, I do believe this is a false double foul and follow the procedure as such.
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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 05:28pm
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I don't have time to read this thread until later, BUT:

MY WHISTLE TAKES PRECEDENCE! ROFLMAO

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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 05:50pm
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If the shooting foul was after the ball was airborne, then the offensive foul happened, I do believe this is a false double foul and follow the procedure as such.
So.....what is the procedure if (1)the shot went in, or (2)the shot didn't go?
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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 06:04pm
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I don't have time to read this thread until later, BUT:

MY WHISTLE TAKES PRECEDENCE! ROFLMAO

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Uhh...where was I? Oh, yea, double whistles. That's where you've got to get together with your partner to decide what happened first. Sometimes, if the two of you can't decide, Mark's advice has some validity - one of you should come out strong with one call, and take it from there.
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If the shooting foul (B1 on A1) was after the ball was airborne, then the offensive foul (A2 on B2) happened, I do believe this is a false double foul and follow the procedure as such.
So.....what is the procedure if (1)the shot went in, or (2)the shot didn't go?
There is no rocket science here. The same ole advice prevails. Penalize them in the order they happened: I do not believe that the POI rule sneaks in here. Besides, how can you have POI if only one foul involved a shooter?

Penalty for first foul (B1 on A1):

With the lane cleared, (a) 1 FT if the shot was good, (b) 2 or 3 if the shot was not good.

Second foul (A2 on B2): there was no team possession (ball was airborne, so you cannot have a team control foul. B2 shoots FTs if they're in the bonus, otherwise, B throw-in at the spot closest to where the foul occured. If that spot is the endline, I do not believe that B gets to retain the use of the endline.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Sometimes, if the two of you can't decide, Mark's advice has some validity - one of you should come out strong with one call, and take it from there.
Form now on I'm coming out strong on all double whistles

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Old Tue Mar 07, 2006, 08:56pm
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We ended up going with the offensive foul. It happened kind of fast so neither one us really knew for sure if the ball had left the shooter's hand or not. We told the coach that my partner heard my whistle and the ball had not left yet, so we went with it and acted like we had the call all along! Nobody questioned it much, so it worked out.
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Old Wed Mar 08, 2006, 07:52am
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Actually this would be a False Multiple foul
a False doble foul is is when there are fouls committed by both teams.
a False multiple foul fou would be when team mates commit fouls.


If it was a multiple foul the fouls would have been against the same person.



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Actually this would be a False Multiple foul
a False doble foul is is when there are fouls committed by both teams.
a False multiple foul fou would be when team mates commit fouls.
Huh? Rick, read the sitch again. . .

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I have an off-ball foul against the offense for hooking a defender and throwing him out of the lane. At the same time, my partner has a shooting foul against the defense.
Sounds like a false double to me. Actually, it sounds like a simultaneous foul to me. But it's definitely not a false multiple.
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