BLARGE--Possesion

[Nate1224hoops]

A1 drives to the basket, B1 steps in front. The Lead calls charge and the Center calls block. The classic BLARGE. Is possesion determined by the arrow?

[mj]

Yes. Count it if it goes.

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by mj
Yes. Count it if it goes.

What?? The question is who's ball is it? Is it determined by the posssesion arrow???

[All_Heart]

NO.

High School:
The play is dead if the ball is in the players hands. You then go to point of interruption and give the ball back to the offense at the spot of the foul.

If the ball is in the air then I believe you wave off the basket. But I'm not sure about this. You would then go to AP Arrow.

College:
AP Arrow & Reset shot clock.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by All_Heart
College:
AP Arrow & Reset shot clock.

I'm not convinced of this, although I'm in the minority. http://officialforum.com/thread/25138

Hoop is not good.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by All_Heart

College:
AP Arrow & Reset shot clock.

How about we say "College Men" for this ruling...because in NCAAW we aren't going to have a blarge...we get together, decide whose primary area it was, and go with their call. So NCAAW will not go AP Arrow and reset...

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by All_Heart
High School:

If the ball is in the air then I believe you wave off the basket. But I'm not sure about this.


Originally posted by PAOfficial
Hoop is not good.

Guys, in both HS and NCAA (men's), if the shot has been released at the time of the contact, then it counts if it goes in. This is a double foul, so there is no player control foul to consider. Score the basket.

In HS, you would then let the opponents of the team that just scored have a throw-in anywhere along the endline. In NCAA, you would go to the arrow.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rockyroad
in NCAAW we aren't going to have a blarge...we get together, decide whose primary area it was, and go with their call.

And that is, of course, the way it should be. Because it can, in fact, only be one or the other. So decide which one it is and move on. One of the few differences where I like the women's interp better.

[wfd21]

In HS the ball is dead. No hoop because of player control foul. Shooter will get two shots because of the blocking foul and you play off the 2nd shot.

[wfd21]

Case Book 6.7.4. I stand corrected on the lane being occupied. No on the lane. B ball after make or miss/designated/endline to run.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by wfd21
In HS the ball is dead. No hoop because of player control foul. Shooter will get two shots because of the blocking foul and you play off the 2nd shot.

Not trying to be snotty, but read my previous post. Your interp is completely incorrect. This is NOT a player control foul; it is a double foul. This is straight from the case book, guys. If the shot is in the air, it counts. No shots, either, b/c it's a double foul.

The case is 4.19.8 Situation C.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Feb 23rd, 2006 at 02:38 PM]

[wfd21]

I think case book play 6.7.4 covers it.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by wfd21
I think case book play 6.7.4 covers it.

Still not trying to be snotty, but you are still incorrect. 6.7.4 is NOT a blarge. It is a defensive foul FOLLOWED by a player-control foul.

Look at 4.19.8 Situation C. Please. You will be convinced. I promise.

[wfd21]

Thanks Chuck, I do stand corrected. Thats why I love this forum. Makes you get into the book!