Can the endline still be run?

[kokayne]

After a made basket, team "A" is inbounding the basketball. A double foul is called. Can team "A" still run the baseline or does it become a spot through in, or does it go to the possesion arrow, or what?

[deecee]

team A would still have the ball and retain the baseline. we continue on in the game much as if nothing had happened when thos fouls occured and just play on.

[kokayne]

Can you please tell me where in the book you come up with your answer.

Thanx

[deecee]

have my book on me -- but if im going by if a team with the baseline gets fouled before the throw in is completed and the throw in will on the baseline then they retain thr right to run baseline.

I dont see why because of a double foul going to POI would make that throw in a spot throw in.

[zebraman]

Originally posted by kokayne
Can you please tell me where in the book you come up with your answer.

Thanx

That's actually an excellent question.

Rule 4-36 (new rule this year). When there is a double foul, you resume from the point of interruption.

Interesting though because you'd think that Team A would lose their rate to run the baseline due to A1 being involved in a foul. I don't think this case is specifically addressed for NFHS.

College refs... is it addressed in NCAA?

Z

[Back In The Saddle]

The NFHS rule on running the endline is 7-5-7. "After a goal or awarded goal as in 7-4-3, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or common foul (before the throw-in ends and before the bonus is in effect) and the ensuing throw-in spot would have been on the end line. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary line."

Note that the right to run the endline is retained after a common foul. A double foul is not a common foul. NFHS 4-19-2: "A common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player trying or tapping for a field goal nor a part of a double, simultaneous or multiple foul."

So A does not retain the right to run the endline. However, as Z pointed out, you do go the POI (which does not, however, include running the endline).

[kokayne]

Works for me,

thanx

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
The NFHS rule on running the endline is 7-5-7. "After a goal or awarded goal as in 7-4-3, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or common foul (before the throw-in ends and before the bonus is in effect) and the ensuing throw-in spot would have been on the end line. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary line."

Note that the right to run the endline is retained after a common foul. A double foul is not a common foul. NFHS 4-19-2: "A common foul is a personal foul which is neither flagrant nor intentional nor committed against a player trying or tapping for a field goal nor a part of a double, simultaneous or multiple foul."

So A does not retain the right to run the endline. However, as Z pointed out, you do go the POI (which does not, however, include running the endline).

I agree with the ruling presented above. By being involved in the double foul, A1 cost his team the right to run. I don't know if that is fair or not since both teams fouled and it seems that Team A is being punished more by also losing the running privilege. Perhaps the NFHS should look at this now that we have POI. Under our current rules they lose the running since a double foul is certainly not a common foul.

[JugglingReferee]

Little twists like this keep me intrigued in rules!

My preference is that A keeps the endline. I guess I am a purest when I implement Point of Interruption.

[IREFU2]

Originally posted by deecee
team A would still have the ball and retain the baseline. we continue on in the game much as if nothing had happened when thos fouls occured and just play on.

Remember their is no team control on throw-ins....

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by IREFU2

Remember their is no team control on throw-ins....

Correct, but so what?

[IREFU2]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Correct, but so what?

I thought I read something about team control in the thread. My fault, still early.

[rainmaker]

Where's a moderator when you need one?!?

[Snake~eyes]

I don't think the rule quoted by Back in the Saddle matters. We are returning to the POI so I say let A run the baseline.

[BktBallRef]

Team A does NOT retain the right to run the endline. The rule as BITS quoted above requires that when a COMMON FOUL is called on Team B, Team A will retain the right to run the endline. The new rule on POI does NOT supercede that.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jan 21st, 2006 at 04:02 PM]