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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 11:49am
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I gotta agree with Jurassic. These buzz words are getting ridiculous. It's just basketball.

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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 12:14pm
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"Trail Mentality" mainly refers to the C and wanting to get to the topside of the play alot like a Trail.

"Big Picture Mentality" or "Panoramic View Concept" refers mainly to the Trail and that he has the all inclusive look of the floor or at least he should.

Jurassic surely you know one of these two terms cause they are as archaic as you: Pinch the paint or walking through the drive. Ring a bell. ding ding

If not I understand because whether people believe it or not the game has changed and there are new terms out there. No one until less than 8 years ago were taught to get topside or use a "Trail mentality" at C. They were taught to stay at home until the L had completed his rotation. These are all fairly new terms and there are more than this so if we all get familiar with them now it will be easier to work with in the future.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 12:23pm
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JR, those buzzwords may have originated from the SEC but they are used elswhere also.

Can you tell me what old term is the same as "trail mentality?" I'm curious about it. I always like to really learn about things like this (I had to throw that in so you would know my question is genuine).
Tom, I honestly don't have a clue whatinthehell "trail mentality" is. I'm not even sure that I really want to know, to be quite honest. Is it any different from "center mentality" or "lead mentality"? Is this the face of someone who cares?

I can't keep track of all of 'em anymore. Too many mad scientists- too few me's.

Whatever it is though, I'd bet Lark's left one that it ain't really a new concept at all. Also note that I ain't putting it down either- whatever the hell it is.

"I'm bilingual. I speak 2 languages- Murican and SEC."
I understand you. FWIW, refTN (like many others) is a young official so he speaks the language he was taught, if you know what I mean. Also, if someone is going to give me games at $1000 + a pop, I'm going to talk their language. I like to know the new, the old and the in-between just so I know. However, those collared shirts and flat-front pants were just brutal! That is some "old" I don't miss at all!
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 12:25pm
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I understand what the terms mean. They're just needless. The concepts are simple, but using inane terms like "Panoramic View Concept" make things seem more complicated than they are. There will always be people in every profession (or hobby) who feel the need to invent terms that make them sound important.

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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 12:40pm
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[BJurassic surely you know one of these two terms cause they are as archaic as you: Pinch the paint or walking through the drive. Ring a bell. ding ding

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I'll bet you just impress the hell right out of all your middle-school coaches when you use those terms too.

You gonna try all that stuff out when, or if, you ever get to do a varsity high school game?

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Dec 30th, 2005 at 12:44 PM]
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 02:51pm
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I understand what the terms mean. They're just needless. The concepts are simple, but using inane terms like "Panoramic View Concept" make things seem more complicated than they are. There will always be people in every profession (or hobby) who feel the need to invent terms that make them sound important.

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I'm not wishy washy, but I am acceptable to change. This post made me think; in the computer industry, people do the same thing.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 05:22pm
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I understand what the terms mean. They're just needless. The concepts are simple, but using inane terms like "Panoramic View Concept" make things seem more complicated than they are. There will always be people in every profession (or hobby) who feel the need to invent terms that make them sound important.

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I'm not wishy washy, but I am acceptable to change. This post made me think; in the computer industry, people do the same thing.
I know, I work as a systems programmer for a large aerospace company. The new buzzwords come around all the time to describe things we've been doing for years. Then they are replaced by new terms that mean the same thing. It's silly.

Maybe the posters on this board could come up with some great terms that sound really complicated to describe simple concepts.

How about, "maintaining sufficient and appropriate duration of time and focus on offensive spherical projectile launcher?" That means "stay with shooter."

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Old Fri Dec 30, 2005, 05:38pm
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How about, "maintaining sufficient and appropriate duration of time and focus on offensive spherical projectile launcher?" That means "stay with shooter."

[/B][/QUOTE]LOL!

How about anything with "paradigm" in it? That always gets to Dilbert. And me too.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2005, 01:09am
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How about, "maintaining sufficient and appropriate duration of time and focus on offensive spherical projectile launcher?" That means "stay with shooter."
It's still clear, though. I mean if a person were to sort back through the words and their meanings, and put things together, it would turn out that the long phrase equals the short phrase. The ref-camp-speak is muddy and meaningless -- as is a lot of jargon. What are "wide eyes?" I hate that term. What is "the panoramic view concept?" It's vague and fuzzy. To make "stay with the shooter" truly obscurantist use words with lots of different meanings, and words that are often mis-used. Like "Parameter" and "Myriad" and "multi-tasking". It's also good to use words as the wrong parts of speech, such as "priority your time" and "let's signify this".

In your attempt, I think "duration" and "focus" are very good, but "spherical" is way too specific, as are "projectile" and "launcher."

Let's see....

Focal point on primary offense

Focal point the airborne

shooter goes headline (meaning the shooter gets all the attention)

surely someone out there works in advertising and could come up with something really trendy-sounding. I mean, "Stay with the shooter" is so last week!!
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2005, 12:19pm
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How about...

Context-senstitive transitive shooter-centric prioritization paradigm
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2005, 12:31pm
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Context-senstitive transitive shooter-centric prioritization paradigm
LOL, BITS- yup, that'll work.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2005, 01:24pm
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That is a great one BITS. I'm sure that will be used a lot at referee camps in the ....... (wait for it)...... SEC!

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