NFHS defines Dunking without reference to the rim. Section 16 (Dunking or stuffing is the driving, forcing, pushing or attempting to force a ball through the basket with the hand(s).)

The problem is that there's absolutely no rules basis to support that particular hypothesis. What's your answer gonna be if someone asks you for a rules reference to back up your statement?

The rim vibrating might not be a bad rule of thumb to use, but I don't think that it's a good idea to tell a coach anything that can't be backed up by some rules language. Just tell the coach that it either was or wasn't a dunk.

What's the spirit of the rule, though?

Question. If i call this T for dunking in warm ups does that mean their will be no jump ball. If I understand the rule correctly we begin the game with 2 shots and then the ball is given to the shooting team at half court just as with anyother T

Yes, and the coach has to sit the whole game!

And if 3 kids do it, the coach is ejected.

Is that correct? Three incidents and your out? Rule book reference please.

Each T is direct on the player, and an indirect for the coach. Three indirects and the coach is ejected.

The rule book reference is rule 10-3-4PENALTY, Daddy.

Yup, we discussed this as a way you could get your coach disqualified before the game ever starts if you are pissed at him.

Yeah, there is sort of a hoops urban legend (might be true) that three players who didnt like their coach and knew they were going to get DNPs and/or cut dunked three times during warm ups and got their coach ejected. Hard to say if it is true. But that is the story. Some real senior guys might know if this is true or not.

This did happen just 2-3 years ago in the Portland area.

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It isn't south of you, I can guarantee that! And I can't think of anywhere nearby you to the West either. By the way, did you ever pick up any games here?

The rim vibrating might not be a bad rule of thumb to use, but I don't think that it's a good idea to tell a coach anything that can't be backed up by some rules language. Just tell the coach that it either was or wasn't a dunk. [/B][/QUOTE]

JR,

Thanks for the input. I like your simple answer better. I will most likely continue to use the rim as my criteria but I will not share that with a coach anymore.

I observed this at a game recently and it looked like the official was staring at the kid who did it not once but twice. I would have asked about it had I done the JV game and gone in at halftime, but I was just a spectator. The kid was last year's Mr. Basketball in our state.