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Old Thu Dec 22, 2005, 02:22pm
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Worked a boys hs varsity game last night 3 person crew good game no problems team A was up by 15 w/ 5:00 minutes left in game my partner called a shooting foul on team A players were lining up for the free throws when 2 players on team B's bench started brawling the fight spilled onto the court the coaches & players broke up the fight. I don't have my rule book w/ me what is the actual definition of fighting does it include players on the same team?
Two flagrant's, toss them both and shoot 4 free throws and A Team gets the ball back at the division line.
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 09:22am
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Here's my JuCo conference's interp concerning fighting between teammates (excerpted from one of our quizzes):

Teammates A1 and A-2 are arguing on their way to their bench after the TO is granted. A1 verbally abuses A2 and both grab each other and fall to the floor. Make a call. What do you call?
You are right if you review the current 2006-07 Rule Book and conclude that there is a contradiction in Rule 4-23 and Rule 10-17. The contradiction has been dully noted by Ed Bilik, NCAA, for a change in next year's Rule Book. In Rule 10-17.a .b .c, replace the word ‘opponent’ with the word ‘individual’ and that will eliminate the contradiction. As mentioned at the clinics, Rule 4-23 was a rewrite and inadvertently the change was not made in Rule 10-17. The intent of the rewrite of 4-23 was to clarify fighting and cover the situation described above since it is becoming a prevalent occurrence. At minimum direct technical fouls can be assessed to the Team A players, however, Rule 4-23 is the dominate rule and you are correct to charge both players with flagrant technical fouls and eject them for fighting.
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 11:02am
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Just my 2 cents but if it spilled out onto the court I would have T'ed. If the coaches could have controlled it and it did not interfere with the game I let it go, but since it sounds like it interfeared with the game I would deal with it. New question though. I'm thinking I would have to T up both players. If you were to penelize is this what you would do?
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 12:12pm
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In 4-19-4 it states fighting is a flagrant act. It doesn't say who is envolved, plainly states it's flagrant. Easy enough. I certainly wouldn't ignore it.
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 12:41pm
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Dan's right. This IS a fight and subject to the rules governing them.
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 12:47pm
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if they are on the bench and you T them up, do we then have issues with the coach sticking around?

no rule book so unable to answer my own question right now
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Old Mon Feb 05, 2007, 12:48pm
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sorry, should have said, if they are on the bench and you give them both flagrants and toss them, does that affect the coach and his ability to stick around
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