10 Second Rule

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ref18

Too bad this forum doesn't show the exact second in which a post was made

Wouldn't matter. It's obvious who was first!

[coach41]

wow, thanks for those who pointed out the casebook. I remember asking this question years ago and not everyone was sure what the "real" answer was.

Fortunately, I've managed to avoid making the wrong call in these situations over the years.

[icallfouls]

Originally posted by Kelvin green
NBA uses a hard 10 second count-That's where a lot of people get confused

Um, its actually a standing 8 count.

[Ref Daddy]

Originally posted by Nevadaref
I'll say that he should check out 2-5!

There is more to being the referee than tossing the ball.

SECTION 5 REFEREE'S DUTIES DURING GAME
The referee shall:
ART. 1 . . . Toss the ball in the center restraining circle for all jump-ball situ-ations.
ART. 2 . . . Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters.
ART. 3 . . . Decide whether a goal shall count if the officials disagree.
ART. 4 . . . May declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant.
ART. 5 . . . Decide matters upon which the timer and scorer disagree and correct obvious timing errors.

ART. 6 . . . Confer with the official scorer at halftime to determine the possession arrow is pointed in the proper direction to begin play in the third quarter.
ART. 7 . . . Check and approve the score at the end of each half.

[Ref Daddy]

Another twist on the 10 second count (as opposed to other counts) is that team control MUST be confirmed before the expiration of the count.

Before 10 secconds expires it must be in front-court team control meaning a blind heave at 9.5 buys the player nothing.

Turnover at "Heave + 0.5 seconds = throw-in at point nearest".

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Ref Daddy

Another twist on the 10 second count (as opposed to other counts) is that team control MUST be confirmed before the expiration of the count.

Before 10 secconds expires it must be in front-court team control meaning a blind heave at 9.5 buys the player nothing.

Turnover at "Heave + 0.5 seconds = throw-in at point nearest".

Not sure what you're trying to say but as soon as the pass bounces in the frontcourt (to a player or not), the count ends. The ball must gain FC status...which is done by touching the floor or a player in the FC.

[TravelinMan]

You didn't mention whether you gave them a new 10. What happened?

[just another ref]

Originally posted by JoeyMac323
[hanks for the response. Good point on the part about head referee comment I made. I agree with you, it does mean nothing.

This brings up another point. Regardless of who the "head
referee" is, if you are working with a partner that is totally incompetent, you cannot try to save the world alone. If you obviously know what you are doing and he obviously does not, the crowd and the coaches will eventually totally give up on him, and ask for/beg for/DEMAND everthing from you. Do not try to call the whole game by yourself to compensate. Your partner has to live and die with a certain amount of his own
calls/no calls.

[Texref]

Originally posted by Kelvin green
NBA uses a hard 10 second count-That's where a lot of people get confused

Actually in the NBA, they only get 8 seconds.

[Texref]

Sorry, I posted before I read the entire thread. That'll teach me.

[JoeyMac323]

Originally posted by TravelinMan
You didn't mention whether you gave them a new 10. What happened?

Sorry for taking so long to get back ...

We ended up not giving the team a new 10 seconds after the defending team said they would not guard the inbounds, and allow the team inbounding the ball catch the ball in the front court.

Thanks again for everyone's help. Happy New Year in a couple days.